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Re: Try Switching to Kagi

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Post by lillecarl »

nottorp wrote: post #264
idiotsecant wrote: post #242

Earlier quoted context omitted.

10 dollars is like, a sandwich. Access to your search engine for a month is less useful than a sandwich?

> 10 dollars is like, a sandwich In Silicon Valley? Does Kagi only want to sell to techbros?

No, but they also don't wanna sell to the entire planet. There's definitely a market for a 10$ search engine, since it doesn't make money by maximizing eyeballs it doesn't have to cater to the planet.

Not everyone has a cooled mattress, AC, car etc.. "Are all those things only for techbros"?

Re: Try Switching to Kagi

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Post by [deleted] »

thmoonbus wrote: post #248
Liquix wrote: post #179

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FWIW it's possible to replace the streaming services with something like Jellyfin+Radarr+Sonarr or Kodi+RealDebrid to cut the bill down to <$50/yr, and you also get access to media on all streaming services. leaves plenty of room in the budget for things that can't be self-hosted (like a proper search engine). some may cite ethical concerns but i don't think HBO execs making money hand over fist are concerned about e…

As someone who has several friends and family who work in the mid / lower tiers of the entertainment industry... if you want to pirate, fine, but don't act like you're performing a noble act. Are entertainment execs grossly overpaid and exploitative? Sure - not unlike many industries. But lower revenue and lower subscriber numbers do have an impact on the money that trickles down (yes, trickles, sadly) to employees.…

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Re: Try Switching to Kagi

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Post by Fnoord »

idiotsecant wrote: post #242
Derbasti wrote: post #229

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I finished my 30 day trial the other week, and went back to DDG. After a few days, I realized I didn't miss anything, so I'll happily stay with DDG. Perhaps I'm not a very discerning searcher. Most of my searches are bang-searches of Wikipedia or CPP or Python anyway. Still, I'd be fine with supporting a sustainable search engine. $10/more is a bit too steep for my liking, though, measured against the utility I get f…

10 dollars is like, a sandwich. Access to your search engine for a month is less useful than a sandwich?

For a myriad of reasons I'm cutting back on American subscriptions (am European). Kagi has a soft spot near my heart, so it is likely one of those going out last.

If sandwiches are $10 for you and not worth much, might I ask you to support my subscription instead? Because when I make a sandwich myself, the costs are approx 0,50 EUR, and that is the type of food I can afford.

It is the same with this 'it is only a cup of coffee' or 'only a beer'. I don't drink beer, I do drink coffee, but when I did drink beer the special beers were lower than the prices of the ones you pay in pubs. As for coffee, it just shows you're from San Francisco or something, cause we got free coffee at work in our culture here.

Moreover, there's enough people in this world for whom $10 a month is a huge deal, and all your comment shows is that you're either unaware of such or simply don't care.

Re: Try Switching to Kagi

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Post by api »

I've used Kagi for over a year. It's been months since I've used Google. Now I also use LLMs (both local and hosted) along with Kagi, and Google is obsolete for search.

Google's results are really awful, and it constantly nags me to install Chrome.

Re: Try Switching to Kagi

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Post by mixmastamyk »

zaneyard wrote: post #384
Derbasti wrote: post #229

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I finished my 30 day trial the other week, and went back to DDG. After a few days, I realized I didn't miss anything, so I'll happily stay with DDG. Perhaps I'm not a very discerning searcher. Most of my searches are bang-searches of Wikipedia or CPP or Python anyway. Still, I'd be fine with supporting a sustainable search engine. $10/more is a bit too steep for my liking, though, measured against the utility I get f…

Firefox (and probably others) allows you to set up custom search engines (like Wikipedia). So when I know I am trying to get to Wikipedia or npm or whatever I just do an @wikipedia and type my search.

I’ve used keyword search for many years, maybe since Netscape. Set it up and type “w thing”, no quotes. Can be a lot shorter.

Re: Try Switching to Kagi

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Post by Fnoord »

thmoonbus wrote: post #399
alextingle wrote: post #390

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Shoplifting and copyright violation are not comparable. Most of us on this site produce copyrighted works for money. Many of us are pretty knowledgable about how copyright works, as it's an integral part of our livelihood. So please don't try to promulgate that weird media industry propaganda here.

Ah yeah the weird propaganda that people labor to make creative output, and if you value that output and have the means, you should consider paying for it. Also, read what I wrote: "if you want to pirate, fine, but don't act like you're performing a noble act". What specifically bugs me is less so the act - I assume few among us haven't engaged in illegal streaming, paywall bypassing, password sharing etc. - it's the…

For me it is rather can no longer afford, and cutting back on dependency on USA.

Re: Try Switching to Kagi

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Post by bl4kers »

harshitaneja wrote: post #126

My experience with Kagi was not as positive as everyone else's here. I didn't find the search results to be better and perhaps that's because I am used to google foo to extract decent results there. So I made Kagi my default engine everywhere and used it exclusively for more than a month before giving up. The response time for search results isn't too long but that difference from google's response time, which I had…

Same

Re: Try Switching to Kagi

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Post by nedt »

kristofferR wrote: post #206
nedt wrote: post #204

I'm actually happy with the duckduckgo results and also have a couple of bangs I use regularly. My biggest issue with using Kagi would be that I have to log in. I tend to clear cookies, either automated when closing a tab or by using a private browser, and would always have to relogin.

Nope, they've solved that: https://help.kagi.com/kagi/privacy/privacy-pass.html

Always needs an extension. That's not the same as just using Duckduckgo.

Re: Try Switching to Kagi

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Post by bitwize »

realo wrote: post #182
seth_at_kagi wrote: post #167

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Hey, Engineer from Kagi here. This is not something we intentionally do here, and is a feature of Stripe to automatically renew at the end of a trial if there is a payment method present. It should have also sent you an email about 7 days before it was going to renew. With that said, I do understand how this may be unexpected. I will look into adding a workaround for this auto-renewal so that we can prevent that in t…

That comment from an actual human being, sir, more than anything else, would be by itself a reason for me to switch to Kagi everywhere. Fortunately I already switched to Kagi everywhere...

Egg on face from Hackernews has been known to turn the eye of even Google.

There is tremendous power here.

Re: Try Switching to Kagi

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Post by homebrewer »

mubou wrote: post #61
Ezhik wrote: post #15

Kagi is so nice. Amazing that it's the first search engine I've seen that lets me do something as obvious as customizing ranking for certain websites. And, of course, the ability to block websites from search results entirely. It even passes my personal search test - it shows reasonable results and not pages and pages of junkware when I search for "avi to mp4". I think my only annoyance with it is that it shows me sh…

> how it's impossible to get Google to show English results in a non-English-speaking country It's ridiculous because there's even a language option in the search settings, but it does nothing . I had to change my country to United States just to get it to stop giving me non-English technical documentation and wiki articles. But that means in order to get local results for stores etc I have to use Bing/DDG instead. D…

Use https://google.com/ncr (which stands for "no country redirect" IIRC). Has been working for me in a non-English speaking country for a very long time.
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