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Re: Temu pulls its U.S. Google Shopping ads

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Post by scott_w »

rdtsc wrote: post #368
Aurornis wrote: post #80

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It's not that complicated. They don't pay the tariffs. The person receiving the package does. Many carriers will slap you with the tariff charge, a brokerage fee, and then send you to collections if you don't pay it. The vendors don't care because they're making the sale and the tariffs are the other person's responsibility. Caveat emptor.

> They don't pay the tariffs. The person receiving the package does. How does that work? I am assuming it’s not US as I had never got any tariff charges or brokerage fees from the likes of FedEx or UPS.

You get a letter from your delivery company (in the UK, usually the Post Office or Royal Mail) with a link to pay import taxes. Once you pay, the delivery is scheduled.

Depending on country rules, it is sometimes possible for the sender to pay and then include the charges in their delivery fees.

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Post by tempaccount420 »

properpopper wrote: post #390
simgt wrote: post #328

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> I loved temu, aliexpress, and shein. I probably averaged 1 item per day arriving to my house, for years and years. > I feel bad for the unaware people still ordering. I personally feel bad for the environment and all the people on the losing side of cheap low quality junk production. Good if the beneficiaries are gone from your part of the world.

Environment protection in the EU good: - replace plastic straws/cups with paper based ones questionable: - limit nicotine products to 10ml, so now instead of buying one bottle (200ml for example) of nicotine you have to buy 20 bottles 10ml each - ???

> good:

> - replace plastic straws/cups with paper based ones

This belongs at least in "questionable" if not just "bad"

Re: Temu pulls its U.S. Google Shopping ads

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Post by IG_Semmelweiss »

kalleboo wrote: post #320
Freak_NL wrote: post #292

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Yeah, you have to try real hard to get a customs processing fee on a package from AliExpress. Customs literally can't keep up with the fire-hose of packages coming in from China, so the current deal is that they, AliExpress, charge and pay VAT and the packages just come through unscathed. Order something from the US into Europe? Expect to pay customs most of the time. From Great Britain post-Brexit? Ditto. China? Rar…

Any business outside the EU can register for the EU One Stop Shop scheme and charge the VAT directly and avoid fees. Many small time US sellers probably just don’t want to bother, but big platforms like AliExpress centralize it https://skat.dk/en-us/businesses/vat/vat-on-international-tr...

"Dont want to bother" is generous.

"Dont want to be stuck in the morass of EU red tape" is more like it. Not that US red tape is any better, mind you, but suffice to say that unless you have massive scale, registration schemes will make you ROI negative unless you are making >100k in sales per month from the country in question.

Some even require registration by region. For example GER vs UK vs FR and rest a while back, all needed separate registration. And the paperwork is usually in the home coun try official language. Ha joke is on you when you start getting tax authority messages. They arent saying bonjour!

Source: i did this for my company.

Re: Temu pulls its U.S. Google Shopping ads

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Post by mapt »

cyanydeez wrote: post #339
idle_zealot wrote: post #331

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US "liberal" media is being extremely cagey about what and how it reports on this admin. They know they're in its crosshairs and are doing this clumsy balancing act of trying to retain their relatively left-leaning or centrist viewers while trying not to draw any more ire. It won't work, of course, and if we continue on this trajectory you can expect that they'll change over to apologia and ass-kissing or be dismantl…

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There's a very large political base, particularly of young people, that is more than ready for leftist politics.

It just doesn't get any funding from the millionaires who fund the DNC or the billionaires who fund the GOP. And money is how political organizations run. We have too much wealth inequality to effectively enfranchise most of the population; Capitalism ate democracy, film at 11.

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Post by detaro »

mapt wrote: post #398
Brybry wrote: post #90

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As far as I know, the way it works is shipping companies can do the % package value (ad valorem duty) or the flat rate per package (specific duty) but have to do the same method for all packages and can only change their method once a month.[1] My speculation is the ad valorem duty requires more manpower to implement and so that's why there's the specific duty option. Especially because they originally temporarily ha…

Wait, what? So I can buy my carton of 120 iphones if I pay a $100 package fee, instead of $200,000 at the 120% rate? Alternately: My Chinese excavator only costs $100 in tariffs? Can someone give me pseudocode here?

Neither of those are going to be postal service packages with a De Minimis value (<$800).

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Post by scott_w »

cbeach wrote: post #395
kergonath wrote: post #340

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> Brexit literally just resulted in the UK having lower tariffs That is, of course, entirely false. In that the UK does not, in fact, have lower tariffs, and even if that would be the case, there are many downsides that don’t have anything to do with tariffs. > and a probable free trade deal with the largest economy on the planet The FTA with the US has been "happening soon" for about a decade now. I’ll believe it wh…

> In that the UK does not, in fact, have lower tariffs When tariffs were applied, UK got 10%, EU got 20%. There's currently a temporary reprieve on the EU. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/04/02/trump-tariff...

So a couple of things:

1. The EU has that reprieve. Given the EU can bite back, it's possible that reprieve becomes permanent.

2. Last time Trump slapped tariffs on UK + EU, Biden prioritised reversing tariffs on the EU first because they're a bigger trading partner than the UK.

As the above poster pointed out, that's to say nothing of the many downsides of not being in the EU.

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Post by zf00002 »

crazygringo wrote: post #324
Aurornis wrote: post #80

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It's not that complicated. They don't pay the tariffs. The person receiving the package does. Many carriers will slap you with the tariff charge, a brokerage fee, and then send you to collections if you don't pay it. The vendors don't care because they're making the sale and the tariffs are the other person's responsibility. Caveat emptor.

But the person receiving the package doesn't receive the package until they've paid the tariff. You don't have to pay it -- if you don't, the package gets returned to sender or destroyed. The post office delivers you a slip with information to go to your local post office to pay it and pick up the package. With UPS and FedEx you get a notice to pay online, and they deliver it once you do, as far as I know. I've never…

The only time I've received an item that had a fee, FedEx delivered it and then a week later I got a bill from Fedex in the mail.

Re: Temu pulls its U.S. Google Shopping ads

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Post by duxup »

tantalor wrote: post #388

> shut off Google Shopping ads... App Store ranking subsequently plummeting Are they implying that app store ranking was quid pro quo for ads buys?

I don't know about quid pro quo but those ads are content on the internet so I would assume that would drop SEO and new installs.

One of the strange patterns with Google is that quid pro quo is hard to even filter out as in some cases it is actually a natural part of the system. Probably a bad thing.

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