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Re: Leaked data reveals Israeli govt campaign to remove pro-Palestine posts on Meta

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Post by throwing_away »

ath3nd wrote: post #376
throwing_away wrote: post #259

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not unreasonable to see the situation as "Then they came for the Jews, and the administration finally deported the people who were coming for the Jews". The president's literal argument for doing it is that the activist groups are coming for all of American life. I'm not a big fan of either side's rhetoric, but clearly the horseshoe has become a ring.

> I'm not a big fan of either side's rhetoric, but clearly the horseshoe has become a ring. Either side? Tell me which "side" does that sound like? - hostility towards non traditional sexuality - immigration being used as the scapegoat for economic problems - strong feeling of national exceptionalism - assault on women's productivity rights - politicizing of science - deportation for political reasons - "Roman" salut…

> Either side? Tell me which "side" does that sound like?

Up until you got to the "Roman" salutes, it sounded like both sides in the US.

Or rather, it will sound like whichever side you aren't. That's the point.

But using "Then they came for the Jews" when you're discussing deportation of these particular people is perhaps a new level of absurdity in the discourse.

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Post by someotherperson »

nickff wrote: post #394
someotherperson wrote: post #338

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This feels like a dog whistle rather than providing something substantive. The Israeli government also helped facilitate Qatar's support for Hamas[0], what's your point here? [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_support_for_Hamas#Isra...

Not previously involved in this discussion, but what exactly is the 'dog-whistle' you're calling out here? It seems that you're engaging in whataboutism; is that what you believe the parent is doing as well? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

> In politics, a dog whistle is the use of coded or suggestive language in political messaging to garner support from a particular group without provoking opposition

The nonsensical references to Qatar and Hamas while pushing conspiracies around a human rights group are standard Hasbara talking points.

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Post by roro_7 »

rrrrrrrrrrrryan wrote: post #329
aucisson_masque wrote: post #24

I like to think we are in a better place than russia for instance with all its propaganda and jailed journalists, but then i see these kind of article come over and over.... Most of the people in the 'free world' goes on mainstream media, like facebook to get their news. These companies are enticed to 'suck up' to the government because at the end they are business, they need to be in good term with ruling class. you…

I don't think this is necessarily an issue of censorship so much as it is highlighting that Facebook is clearly a fucking news publisher and should be treated as such under the law. It's time to revoke section 230 for any social media network that amplifies or buries content with a non-transparent process. In this case it isn't even merely an algorithm designed by humans. They have LITERAL human editors choosing whic…

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Re: Leaked data reveals Israeli govt campaign to remove pro-Palestine posts on Meta

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Post by hn_throwaway_99 »

spencerflem wrote: post #348
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #347

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Thanks for the information. FWIW, I think this is total bullshit and fascism, but your comments aren't telling the whole story. The most important thing to point out is that "the judges" in this case was actually a single immigration judge. Immigration judges belong to the executive branch, not the judiciary. I agree this law that says that the Secretary of State can essentially just deport anyone they want can't be…

In a different deportation case they just defied a supreme court ruling - https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/11/trump-deport... Didn't realize that the judge in the linked one was an immigration judge and not a judiciary judge thanks for the clarification

That other deportation case you link to here is even more bizarrely evil to me. At least in the other examples the administration is making the case that they should have the power to deport these people under law (not like I agree with that interpretation, but they are at least trying to make an argument).

In this other case, the administration flat out admitted they made a mistake and that he shouldn't have been deported. So they ship him to this notorious prison and then just do an "oopsies, our bad, he's gone now." Not only do I not see how the administration's stance is defensible, why would you even want to defend it, especially if you actually agreed with their overall stance of wanting to increase deportations of "bad guys". The administration said outright he is not a bad guy!

I simply can't understand it outside of a "the cruelty is the point" framework, but even in that framework the cruelty is normally directed at "bad guys". Now folks are OK with cruelty to random people that was the result of an admitted error. WTF happened to our country?

Re: Leaked data reveals Israeli govt campaign to remove pro-Palestine posts on Meta

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Post by kenjackson »

gs17 wrote: post #205
packetlost wrote: post #189

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He's married to a citizen which gives him an avenue towards legal residency and full citizenship. It doesn't matter anyways because the government admitted he was deported due to a administrative error and because they actively undermined and sidestepped the courts authority on several occasions, there is effectively nothing stopping them from doing it to full blown citizens. Honestly, it sounds like it's just a matt…

I agree it's bad, and yes, the government admitted they shouldn't have done it. But regardless, the question was about if it has happened to a citizen, not a person who maybe could be a citizen one day but is not, and you responded with them "doing just that" when they did not, in fact, "do just that". I'm not sure why there's a need to mislead when what's actually happening is bad enough.

But the administration has now stated they are investigating how to deport citizens as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8gYlWcV6wE&t=1s

She says only the most violent dangerous criminals -- although I feel like we've heard that line before...

Re: Leaked data reveals Israeli govt campaign to remove pro-Palestine posts on Meta

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Post by nashashmi »

nikkwong wrote: post #351
janalsncm wrote: post #25

So when the government pointed to the disproportionate support for Palestine on TikTok vs Instagram, it was actually because Instagram was suppressing it. It is ironic. https://x.com/hawleymo/status/1717505662601609401

While this may be part of the story, it's certainly not the full picture. We know that the CCP is actively manipulating the algorithm on Tiktok to further their agenda on multiple other geopolitical issues—something we have ample evidence for. I don't know if there is a smoking gun on this one topic in particular, but the CCP's goal has always been to divide the American audience; and we know that older Americans ske…

We find in mainstream media a pro Israel bend. We also find the same in US companies. Manipulation? Yes

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Post by bolognafairy »

mkolodny wrote: post #397
rrrrrrrrrrrryan wrote: post #329

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think this is necessarily an issue of censorship so much as it is highlighting that Facebook is clearly a fucking news publisher and should be treated as such under the law. It's time to revoke section 230 for any social media network that amplifies or buries content with a non-transparent process. In this case it isn't even merely an algorithm designed by humans. They have LITERAL human editors choosing whic…

Are you saying you think human editors handpick what goes on billions of people’s Facebook feeds?

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Re: Leaked data reveals Israeli govt campaign to remove pro-Palestine posts on Meta

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Post by spencerflem »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #404
spencerflem wrote: post #348

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In a different deportation case they just defied a supreme court ruling - https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/11/trump-deport... Didn't realize that the judge in the linked one was an immigration judge and not a judiciary judge thanks for the clarification

That other deportation case you link to here is even more bizarrely evil to me. At least in the other examples the administration is making the case that they should have the power to deport these people under law (not like I agree with that interpretation, but they are at least trying to make an argument). In this other case, the administration flat out admitted they made a mistake and that he shouldn't have been de…

completely agreed. its nice to find someone else worried about this on hacker news

Re: Leaked data reveals Israeli govt campaign to remove pro-Palestine posts on Meta

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Post by bolognafairy »

maeil wrote: post #353
esafak wrote: post #327

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe it's time to rethink the visibility and permanence of HN discussions.

That would be great, but I don't see it. HN has already been obviously violating GDPR and all other right-to-forget laws since forever by not allowong for account deletion, and everytime this has been brought up, dang has pretty much confirmed they don't care ("it would look bad if there were deleted comments [and that's more important than these laws]").

huge shock that y combinator doesn’t give a shit about legal risk considering the huge chunk of its successful startups were just law-breaking mobile apps.
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