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Everyone knows all the apps on your phone

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Re: Everyone knows all the apps on your phone

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That's why I like hacker news. I found this article yesterday and posted it on reddit android, here : https://old.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/1jmwg4w/everyone_k... 0 upvote, comment filled with what is either depressed sad people or just bots. Here it's top 2... With mostly interesting comment. Some subreddit are more dead than other but r/android got to be one of the worst.

On the other hand, many interesting links (IMO) I submit to HN also get zero comments

Re: Everyone knows all the apps on your phone

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To be fair, browser apps do have their advantages: - text is selectable - content is zoomable - you can have an ad/nuisance blocker - page source is open While native apps have their own advantages: - much smoother experience esp. navigation, scrolling, animations, etc. - better overall performance (JavaScript will always lose to the native binary) - access to hardware opens new possibilities; audio, video accelerato…

> browser apps do have their advantages: These are more like byproduct of the fact that web apps are built on the stack not suited for modern UI apps. It's literally a text typesetting engine pretending to be a rendering engine for high-performance UI. So, it can also be framed as: - everything is selectable, even what shouldn't be - buttons, drawers, video players, etc - content is zoomable, which most of the time j…

> It's literally a text typesetting engine pretending to be a rendering engine for high-performance UI

This is an outdated view of the web. Catch up or be left behind.

Re: Everyone knows all the apps on your phone

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That's why I like hacker news. I found this article yesterday and posted it on reddit android, here : https://old.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/1jmwg4w/everyone_k... 0 upvote, comment filled with what is either depressed sad people or just bots. Here it's top 2... With mostly interesting comment. Some subreddit are more dead than other but r/android got to be one of the worst.

On the other hand, many interesting links (IMO) I submit to HN also get zero comments

Worse, I've had submissions (both links and comments) get flagged in the past, and I have no idea why. I suppose they must have validated some HN policy, but if I had more information about the rationale, I could avoid making the same mistake again in the future (all of my submissions where that happened were for genuinely interesting contents or 100% non-offensive opinion comments).

Re: Everyone knows all the apps on your phone

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I found this description about the security risks of rooting very eye-opening https://madaidans-insecurities.github.io/android.html It also explains the sandbox.

A more recent (2023) sandboxing + isolation overview by the Android team: https://arxiv.org/html/1904.05572v3/ (section 4.3)

> Android’s security design has fundamentally been based on a multi-party authorization model: an action should only happen if all involved parties authorize it.

> these are user, platform, and developer (implicitly representing stakeholders such as content producers and service providers). Any one party can veto the action.

How is this not anti-user? It explicitly states that the app developer should be able to veto my decisions...

Re: Everyone knows all the apps on your phone

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Simple, UX. The reality is, most webapps for mobile just suck. The UX is nowhere near that of a native application. I don't want any text to be selectable. I don't want pull to refresh on every page. I don't want the left-swipe to take me to the previous page. You can probably find workarounds for all these issues. The new Silk library ( https://silkhq.co/ ) is the first case I've seen that get's very close to a nati…

> I don't want any text to be selectable Disabling text selection is not just worse UX, it is actively user-hostile

It's worse on desktop. On mobile it just leads to accidental selection when you were trying to do something else.

Re: Everyone knows all the apps on your phone

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That's why I like hacker news. I found this article yesterday and posted it on reddit android, here : https://old.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/1jmwg4w/everyone_k... 0 upvote, comment filled with what is either depressed sad people or just bots. Here it's top 2... With mostly interesting comment. Some subreddit are more dead than other but r/android got to be one of the worst.

> Some subreddit are more dead than other but r/android got to be one of the worst. Yeah, I'm not sure what exactly is going on with reddit but if dead-internet theory would hold anywhere, it seems to be there. Besides, all the topic/subject subreddits seems moderated by people who hold a vested interest in the topic/subject, to the detriment of their community. I made a submission which went into details about the p…

Moderation is one of the huge Achilles’ heels of Reddit. I’m confused why Reddit thinks a monarchy with no term limits will work on a website when it has never worked in human history. There is no voting whatsoever where users can give feedback on how they think the moderation or the subreddit is going. You get entrenched subreddits like /r/movies and their obsession with movie posters instead of movie discussion or /r/running, which is incredibly unused because the mods insist on removing almost any discussion of running outside the weekly threads except for idiotic race reports in obscure places that no one reads or cares about.

Re: Everyone knows all the apps on your phone

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> everyone knows all the alls on your phone On Android phones. iPhone doesn’t have this privacy deficiency.

They did, long ago. I remember when it was shut down after someone made the problem public, like this.

I’m amazed Android still allowed this in 2022.

Re: Everyone knows all the apps on your phone

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> Look at how many apps require permission to see you contacts. It is so annoying that it’s either "give access to ALL my contacts and ALL their information (yes, even the notes I took on their favorite things for next Christmas)" or "don’t give access". I wish we could limit the number of contacts and the level of information we give.

> It is so annoying that it’s either "give access to ALL my contacts and ALL their information… […] I wish we could limit the number of contacts and the level of information we give. iOS added fine-grained (at the contact level) access to contacts data last year. https://lifehacker.com/tech/you-can-control-which-contacts-a...

They did the same for photos years ago.

Many apps have not updated and perhaps never will.

Re: Everyone knows all the apps on your phone

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I'm working on implementing this for the company, and the annoying limitations on iOS is that you can't clone apps. If you want Gmail (as an example) as managed app, you can't have another Gmail as unmanaged app. While the company can't see inside the Gmail managed app (without the app itself explicitly providing that feature), the company can remove Gmail (and any local data inside the app) at any time. Fun fact fro…

Yes, Apple hates the idea of work-badged apps that Android has. I have to admit, a lot of our users don't grok it either at first. However once they realise the benefits (the company has much less visibility, AND they can turn off the work section completely with the touch of a button) they usually come around pretty quickly. The bad part of this is that apps have to specifically support the multiple profiles option,…

Donyou know if account driven enrolment requires different phone numbers for the MDM managed apps and the personal ones? Specifically for the diaper app for example.

Re: Everyone knows all the apps on your phone

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I used QUERY_ALL_PACKAGES among other things for my app Limit Buddy (https://www.limitbuddy.com). It would be impossible to make the app without it. But for more normal use cases there's no reason to have it.

Apple has a much more robust solution privacy wise with their ScreenTime API but it makes an app like Limit Buddy much harder to build.

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