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post #189

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this gets me the wrong way. see, I live in Nuremberg, Germany. I went to school here, "higher education". I've learned a lot about fascism, how it lured voters into electing them, how they grabbed and secured power, how they introduced concentration camps ("animal protection" legislation, prohibiting kosher butchering, introduced the camps as punishment for those insisting on kosher law. twisted) I've visited two con…

>> I've watched the Holocaust movie series of the 1970s Do you recall Karl is sent to Theresienstadt where the art studio secretly paints the holocaust? That is the "paradise ghetto", the potemkin village concentration camp the Nazis created to give tours to international observers to fool them about conditions. Sometimes called a retirement village or the gift of the Fuhrer to the Jewish people but of course, just a…

I only have nightmare memories, I was way too young to process what I saw :-(

I also found the Reichsparteitagsgelände (Nazi Party Rally Grounds) permanent exhibition the most useful content I was exposed to: they really show how fake news on all available channels and mega-church style mass entertainment were key to overturn a democracy and enable the atrocities. that and first bullying and then eradication of opposition.

I'd really hope US up their resistance and democracy protection game at this point in time. I'm afraid. As in existential fear.

Re: Boycott IETF 127

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It's kind of ingenuous to take RFK's views on drug rehabilitation options and re-state them as if people are being sent to re-education/concentration camps.

That said, I do find the US border incidents to be super scary. I don't blame people for not wanting to come.

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The links you shared in your original comment all pointed to "rejections", not "legal people being detained". What has always been going on: people overstay their visa, depending on the scale and country, people get treated badly almost always in these cases. What is happening now: people being critical of Trump are being rejected, legal visa holders are being detained because of the scale of the abuse. These are cle…

> What is happening now: people being critical of Trump are being rejected, legal visa holders are being detained because of the scale of the abuse. The agencies don’t reveal reasons why someone was denied or detained, so there is no evidence whatsoever that someone was detained for being critical of Trump. The claim that this happened is from Philippe Baptiste, a French minister for higher education who has been att…

> Another AFP source said that US authorities accused the French researcher of “hateful and conspiratorial messages”.

Re: Boycott IETF 127

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The links you shared in your original comment all pointed to "rejections", not "legal people being detained". What has always been going on: people overstay their visa, depending on the scale and country, people get treated badly almost always in these cases. What is happening now: people being critical of Trump are being rejected, legal visa holders are being detained because of the scale of the abuse. These are cle…

> What is happening now: people being critical of Trump are being rejected, legal visa holders are being detained because of the scale of the abuse. The agencies don’t reveal reasons why someone was denied or detained, so there is no evidence whatsoever that someone was detained for being critical of Trump. The claim that this happened is from Philippe Baptiste, a French minister for higher education who has been att…

Isn't simply the act of going through one's phone offensive enough? 0 regard for human dignity and privacy and people defending it is shocking.

Re: Boycott IETF 127

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post #384

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please read the text you quoted: "Several non-EU countries are included in the area through special association agreements."

Yes, but the inclusion of a non-EU country in an EU programme as a special exception (not unique to Schengen) doesn’t thereby make it a non-EU programme, which is a natural interpretation of what you said

I never wrote that Schengen "is not an EU programme", I pointed out succintly that the countries in Schengen and the countries in EU are not the same thing.

In fact there are also EU countries NOT in Schengen. And there are countries in Europe but not in the EU which are not in Schengen either.

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