Truly built with us in mind....Until they get so big someone with a fat check approaches them and then we just have another Discord.
Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord
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Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord
#402I think I'm using every chat platform that has wide adaption in tech circles. The one trend I'm seeing is that most of us just use the platform random communities insist on us using, we don't use them out of preference. And those communities choose the platforms because of the support they're getting from companies like discord and the amount of work needed to moderate and administer the community under the platform.…
>If I need support with an open source library of some sort, I don't mind using IRC , MS Teams or anything in between.
I honestly cannot think of something worse. Chat applications are not forums and they generally suck at replacing them. Not only does this make topics harder to follow and much harder to find to begin with, it also makes the maintainers bother with the same questions again and again, because users can't find their results in search engines.
Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord
#403Earlier quoted context omitted.
Financial success, undoubtedly. Successful at distancing users from the systems that underpin their interactions, certainly. As far as granting users more agency over their digital existence, it has been an abject failure, a state consistently exacerbated by the number of tech communities that could easily exist on IRC or a custom platform. It really hurts when a con is so solid that even the 'enlightened' are ensnar…
A success in terms of popularity, in terms of creating something that regular users enjoy and find value in using. > It really hurts when a con is so solid that even the 'enlightened' are ensnared. It's exactly this sort of sneering attitude that so often causes FOSS projects to fail to catch on in the mainstream. The framing isn't "people like this feature set", it's "people got conned". For a certain type of user,…
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Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord
#404Earlier quoted context omitted.
My dream is to be invited into a mildly popular server (more than 15 users), than doesn't have 50 channels, 8 separate roles and T&C to agree to. It hasn't happened yet. An entire generation of bureaucrats and bean counters is learning the ropes on Discord.
I started and mod a server of about 6k users for a community around a niche software used by professionals, students, and hobbyists. We keep it really simple and focused primarily on people getting questions answered. Recently a small but vocal cadre of hobbyists have been demanding more Discord-y features oriented towards socializing with other users of the software, and our reticence to complicate the server and ad…
Can you elaborate on what features they were demanding?
Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord
#405Earlier quoted context omitted.
I started and mod a server of about 6k users for a community around a niche software used by professionals, students, and hobbyists. We keep it really simple and focused primarily on people getting questions answered. Recently a small but vocal cadre of hobbyists have been demanding more Discord-y features oriented towards socializing with other users of the software, and our reticence to complicate the server and ad…
What features are you talking about? I admin a server of 9k. The new onboarding stuff, automod, opt-in roles?
I’ll assume it was pronoun roles unless we hear back
Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord
#406I am surprised that it is written in Rust. Bi-directional long live connections don't require Rust's raw horsepower. Maybe it's needed for audio/video streaming? Is the API discord compatible? That's basically necessary for adoption.
> Bi-directional long live connections don't require Rust's raw horsepower.
If you're an app dev who's really and truly serious about lowering the barrier to self-hosted services, then you need to consider what the install and deployment step looks like. For languages like Rust that default to producing a single static binary, that's as easy as it gets.
Likewise, you need to consider that users might want to self-host on a potato, which is where Rust's efficiency shines even for small services.
These are both things that Mastodon got horribly wrong, for example, by choosing to use Ruby.
Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord
#407So you have the chance to redesign Discord and you decide to stick with the unicorn-puking emoji-littered eye-scorching UX/UI garbage that Discord is? Interesting.
> So you have the chance to redesign Discord and you decide to stick with design that appeals to normal humans rather than turbonerds? Interesting.
I saw 100+ community force migrate from Telegram to Discord. Most of the people complained about UI/UX, me included. And Telegram is not even very good in that area. Normal people are not fond of Discord UI specifically, they just get used to it.
Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord
#408Earlier quoted context omitted.
Financial success, undoubtedly. Successful at distancing users from the systems that underpin their interactions, certainly. As far as granting users more agency over their digital existence, it has been an abject failure, a state consistently exacerbated by the number of tech communities that could easily exist on IRC or a custom platform. It really hurts when a con is so solid that even the 'enlightened' are ensnar…
A success in terms of popularity, in terms of creating something that regular users enjoy and find value in using. > It really hurts when a con is so solid that even the 'enlightened' are ensnared. It's exactly this sort of sneering attitude that so often causes FOSS projects to fail to catch on in the mainstream. The framing isn't "people like this feature set", it's "people got conned". For a certain type of user,…
I'm not an elitist and I don't have problems with 'regular users'. What I do have a problem with is all the technical users who know better and turn everything over to Discord corp anyway. How many 'hacker spaces' do you know that use Discord as a primary communications channel?
They could just as well run a primary communications channel on something sensible, durable and self-hosted that ties in to discord intake for newcomers. Come in to the discord, say hi, chat a bit and then graduate to where the real content is.
Discord should have been a on-ramp for technical communities, not the foundation.
Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord
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Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord
#410Pushing what used to occur on web forums into Discord chats has been a net loss for the Internet.
Absolutely. Information can no longer be retrieved via internet search. Discord and Slack are effectively silos.
A lot of sites now block non-Google search engines from accessing their data.
Honestly, I find it easier to check a Discord server than to get useful results from DuckDuckGo these days.
Google has done whatever it takes to incentivize people not to use competitors. It sucks.