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Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

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Post by mplanchard »

DeepSeaTortoise wrote: post #358
int_19h wrote: post #276

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I asked it to pretend that it's in charge of world government. Here's the whole thing (it got very lengthy): https://gist.github.com/int19h/d90ee1deed334f26e621e57b5768e... Some choice quotes: "The ultimate goal is to enhance human flourishing, protect individual rights, and promote global equity." "The system must account for diverse cultures, languages, and socioeconomic conditions, ensuring no group is marginalize…

Quite a mix of various talking points both from the extreme left and right. Left: - promote global equity - a globally representative body of humans, elected or appointed based on merit and diversity - Establish global standards for environmental protection, enforced through [...] - Transition to a resource-based economy, where resources are allocated based on need, sustainability, and efficiency, rather than profit…

At least in the current US political climate, and also generally over the past ~20 years at least, these are almost exclusively left-wing goals:

- The system must account for diverse cultures, languages, and socioeconomic conditions

- [Establish global standards for environmental protection, enforced through] [...] regional cooperation.

- ensuring equitable opportunities

The right is against any sort of intentional accounting for diversity, against environmental regulation, and against any sort of regulation to ensure equity.

The only one I could maybe see as being right-wing is protecting individual liberties, but there again the modern right falls short when it comes to women’s healthcare and reproductive rights.

But I’d certainly appreciate more of those perspectives across the political spectrum.

Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

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Post by joaohaas »

frotaur wrote: post #221
dazzaji wrote: post #136

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I'm very sorry if this isn't the case, but this message really feels LLM-written.

TBH I've recently felt like that for ~70% of 'top-level replies' in HN, which has slowly pushed me to other mediums (mastodon and discord).

Could just be that the AI 'boom' brought a less programming-focused crowd into the site and those people lack the vocabulary that is constantly used here, who knows.

Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

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Post by bboygravity »

sigmoid10 wrote: post #385
CSMastermind wrote: post #49

Karpathy gave his initial impression: https://x.com/karpathy/status/1891720635363254772 The pull quote is: The impression overall I got here is that this is somewhere around (OpenAI) o1-pro capability

The impression seems to be warranted: Grok 3 has directly jumpted to the top of all leaderboard categories in Chatbot Arena: https://lmarena.ai/?leaderboard In math it shares the top spot with o1 and is just a few points behind (well within errors). In creative writing it is basically ex-aequo with the latest ChatGPT 4o and in coding it's actually significantly ahead of everyone else and represents a new SOTA.

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Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

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Post by dimatura »

returnInfinity wrote: post #382
frotaur wrote: post #221

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm very sorry if this isn't the case, but this message really feels LLM-written.

And this is the reason, I have choose to write grammatically wrong content online. And basic english only, no fancy words.

I see what you did their

Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

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Post by pjc50 »

qgin wrote: post #340
crocowhile wrote: post #249

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It's not good news when this competition comes at cost of a gigantic over inflated bubble, in which all the big players keep on sucking billions from investors without even having a business model. This hype will burst sooner than later and will trigger yet another global recession. This is untenable.

The premise is that this ultimately replaces all intellectual and physical labor for the rest of time. It’s possible it becomes commoditized as soon as it exists, but in terms of investment dollars it’s either worth as much as you can spend or nothing at all.

> ultimately replaces all intellectual and physical labor for the rest of time

Sounds incredibly valuable, but in reality collapses into Butlerian Jihad fairly quickly when you have 90% unemployment.

Edit: if the claims are true, then this will be far more destabilizing than social media. What do elections mean when the AI-guided political parties are putting out AI press releases for the AI press summaries, which voters have read out to them through their AI? What happens when >50% of the voters ask the AI who they should vote for? You end up with an AI dictatorship where the levers of discontent are fake.

Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

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Post by mettamage »

zamalek wrote: post #261
phtrivier wrote: post #169

Off topic, but just in case: is there a good reference on how people actually use LLMs on a daily basis ? All my attempts so far have been pretty underwhelming: * when I use chatbots as search engines, I'm very quickly disappointed by obvious hallucinations * I ended up disabling github copilot because it was just "auto-complete on steroids" at best, and "auto-complete on mushrooms" at worst * I rarely have use cases…

I use them as a springboard for things I am really unfamiliar with. I'm self-learning electronics at the moment, and so I can ask it things like "what's a common and widely available cooperator." You will not find that answer on a search engine, I don't care how good your Google fu is. It's a weak jack of all trades: it knows a fair amount about the sum of human knowledge (which is objectively super-human), but can't…

Your experience matches mine.

Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

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Post by golergka »

croes wrote: post #341
cheema33 wrote: post #260

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Humans hallucinate as well. Benchmarks count.

But with less power consumption.

I'm willing to bet $100 that a human consumes at least 10x times energy than a latest LLama (picking the open source model so that it can be easily verified) to produce two pages of text. All of this "AI is destroying the environment and consuming too much power" is about total consumption, both training and inference. Inference itself is cheap and green.

Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

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Post by diggan »

sigmoid10 wrote: post #392
pred_ wrote: post #370

> Currently, Grok Web is not accessible in the United Kingdom or the countries of the European Union. We are diligently working to extend our services to these regions, prioritizing compliance with local data protection and privacy laws to ensure your information remains safely secure. I suppose you can take that to mean that people who do have access to the service should not expect much in terms of data protection.

There are just more regulations to comply with before a release. OpenAI's new Deep Research tool wasn't originally available in the EU either, but it was released less then a week after it came out in the US. Since the EU is a gigantic market with a lot of buying power and this release makes a strong case for people to switch over from competitors, I doubt it'll take long.

> There are just more regulations to comply with before a release.

If you do collect personal data and do funky stuff with it.

Another approach would be to not collect that personal data until you have the right process in place, and basically be regulation-compatible out-of-the-door on day one.

Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

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Post by slig »

kubb wrote: post #180
lionkor wrote: post #144

I don't understand how and why Grok would be related to "understanding the nature of the universe", as Musk puts it. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but they basically just burned more cash than any human should have to buy Nvidia GPUs and make them predict natural language, right? So, they are somewhat on-par with all the other companies that did the same. This is not innovation, this is baseless hype over a mediocr…

You don’t understand the Musk business model. It has been the same for years. His wealth doesn’t come from his products, but from his fanbase buying his stock. The purpose of everything he does is to influence the public opinion to make him the tech genius of today in the collective psyche. Of course, he needs to do impressive things, stuff that a normal person wouldn’t have the resources to achieve. It’s similar to…

>his fanbase buying his stock

That doesn't make sense as most (66%) of the stock is owned by institutions. [1]

[1]: https://www.marketbeat.com/stocks/NASDAQ/TSLA/institutional-...

Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

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Post by diggan »

verisimi wrote: post #383
pred_ wrote: post #370

> Currently, Grok Web is not accessible in the United Kingdom or the countries of the European Union. We are diligently working to extend our services to these regions, prioritizing compliance with local data protection and privacy laws to ensure your information remains safely secure. I suppose you can take that to mean that people who do have access to the service should not expect much in terms of data protection.

The EU and UK are good for data protection?

Probably SOTA in terms of data protection today in the world. Happy to be proven otherwise.
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