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You got the BCG vaccine in the UK? Are you sure? I got it when I was a toddler in the late 80s and I still remember the excruciating pain and have the scar to show for it. I grew up in the third world. I have never met a Westerner with this scar unless they got it in the sixties.
Yes, I'm sure, and have the scar on my arm to show for it. Everyone in my school had it. Would have been around 1980.
How interesting. The UK is the only western country Ive encountered that gave this shot to kids in the 80s.
Why is this?
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>the far right party in germany on january 9th, talked about immigration,
Yeah, being against rampant immigration(?) is a very Nazi stance. Sure.
Naw. There's nothing Nazi about wanting to control or restrict who comes into your country; entering a country as a foreigner is a privilege, not a right.
As an aside, efforts to exclude AfD from elections is what is actually Nazi about German goings on. It's not really my place to speak about Germany's domestic affairs as an American, but if you want my honest opinion the German Left is projecting on the Right with authoritarian fury.
>said germans need to get over their nazi guilt,
Speaking as a Japanese, in my opinion Germans should indeed get over their Nazi guilt. History should never be forgotten and the lessons should be taught and remembered, but to drag that guilt across generations is ridiculous. Children are not responsible for the sins of their parents, let alone farther back.
Japan needs to get over Imperial Japan guilt and be proud about being Japanese again too; Japan's case isn't quite as bad as Germany's but there's still a ways to go.
>Do you have a description of what kind of evidence would convince you someone is a modern nazi or 'poor character'?
There are many, some that come to mind include:
* Support racism. Hitler was big on elevating what he called Aryans as the One True Race and exterminating Jews with extreme prejudice.
Musk (and Trump, Republicans, as well as most sensible Americans for that matter) advocate for meritocracy, judging people by their character and capabilities without regard to race or other immutable traits because All Men Are Created Equal.
* Advocate for cruel and unusual punishment. The Nazis used gas chambers and other torturous and humiliating methods of maiming and killing.
Literally noone here in America wants that shit, and those who do are rightfully shamed into oblivion (see: Guantanamo, et al.)
* Advocate for and engage in regulation of speech and thought. The Nazis are a textbook on how to control a population to their bidding, even the Soviets drew lessons from them.
Musk has his share of hypocrisy (why aren't you picking those to criticize him over?), but fundamentally he argues and acts for free speech. Likewise Trump and most Republicans, and certainly any American who understands and respects the Constitution. Some Nazis they/we are.
* Gathering and centralizing absolute power.
Musk's job in Federal government is on a strict and temporary schedule set to expire in July 2026, and he doesn't even have any actual authority. That's not a Nazi, let alone a Fuhrer. Likewise Trump who has consistently advocated for States' rights and reducing the Federal government especially the Executive Branch, and Republicans who have always spoken as the party of small government (whether they are is a different matter).
Citing Nazi ideology without invoking Godwin's Law requires actual, real Nazis to be the subject of debate. Please stop calling everyone and everything you don't like Nazis at the first opportunity, you don't realize how hard you are shooting yourself in the foot by doing so.
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The MMR vaccine doesn’t cause that type of scar. I’ve found nothing saying air vaccination guns do either. Smallpox and TB vaccines both do though. Perhaps you got a combo?
They made a big deal of it, our entire elementary school got it at the same time. And they specifically said it was for German Measles, I don't think MMR had been invented yet. This would have been before 1970.
If pre 1970, you almost certainly got the smallpox vaccine too. At that time it was still an active problem and working to be actively eradicated.
[https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/articles/smallpox-vacc...]
As far as I can tell, German measles vaccine doesn’t cause a scar anymore than MMR (it’s a sub component).
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>the far right party in germany on january 9th, talked about immigration, Yeah, being against rampant immigration(?) is a very Nazi stance. Sure. Naw. There's nothing Nazi about wanting to control or restrict who comes into your country; entering a country as a foreigner is a privilege, not a right. As an aside, efforts to exclude AfD from elections is what is actually Nazi about German goings on. It's not really my…
> Musk has his share of hypocrisy (why aren't you picking those to criticize him over?)
Because I'm not trying to criticize Elon Musk here, I'm trying to understand the cognitive dissonance between seeing two picture perfect sieg heils back to back and denying that that's what happened.
It seems like you agree that the motion is identical, but you are saying that it is a sieg heil but not a 'nazi salute' because elon musk "does not" support racism, advocate for cruelty, regulate speech, or centralize power.
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>the far right party in germany on january 9th, talked about immigration, Yeah, being against rampant immigration(?) is a very Nazi stance. Sure. Naw. There's nothing Nazi about wanting to control or restrict who comes into your country; entering a country as a foreigner is a privilege, not a right. As an aside, efforts to exclude AfD from elections is what is actually Nazi about German goings on. It's not really my…
> Musk has his share of hypocrisy (why aren't you picking those to criticize him over?) Because I'm not trying to criticize Elon Musk here, I'm trying to understand the cognitive dissonance between seeing two picture perfect sieg heils back to back and denying that that's what happened. It seems like you agree that the motion is identical, but you are saying that it is a sieg heil but not a 'nazi salute' because elon…
>Because I'm not trying to criticize Elon Musk here,
But you (and others like-minded) are. You're latching on to a Nazi salute you've projected onto him and trying to use it as the point of criticism. You yourself just admitted you "see [a] perfect sieg heil", even.
>It seems like you agree that the motion is identical, but you are saying that it is a sieg heil but not a 'nazi salute'
He did it while shouting "My heart goes out to you!" to the crowd, so it's not a "sieg heil" either. If he's saluting anyone/thing at all, he's saluting the people and the spirit of America.
I couldn't care less if it's identical, though if you really want my honest opinion on judging that: I wouldn't think of Adolf Hitler as the first thing; then again I don't have my mind in the proverbial Progressive gutter either.
>elon musk "does not" support racism, advocate for cruelty, regulate speech, or centralize power.
Yeah, or to rephrase: In what ways is Elon Musk a Nazi? In the true, real, proper sense of the term "Nazi". Not the dirty word "Nazi" that gets thrown around like candy on disagreeables.
What I think you need to ask yourself is: Why is "Nazi!" the first thing that comes to your mind and is that really justifiable?
You're quite welcome to hate Musk if you want to, I have no problem with that and Musk can defend himself if he feels the need. I couldn't care less. But I am concerned for your mental health if you need to scream Nazi allegations to justify it.
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#407This is the type of thing that'd normally show up on CDC's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report which has been published weekly since 1960 (my understanding is this is without fail). But unfortunately the current administration has decided an ideological purification is more important than keeping the American public apprised of threats to their health. So it wasn't published last week, and probably won't be this we…
I wonder if we’d do better in discourse to stop pointing at an “administration.” It is a reflection of what a plurality, often majority, of people want.
Have you read Democracy for Realists?
TIL Most voters don't have well defined policy preferences. Nor can they correctly associate political parties with their stated policy positions.
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#408My friend's husband is a physician that works along the Mexican border and volunteers at migrant shelters. He said the amount of TB that comes through the border is shocking.
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natural selection also applies to memes. memes that cause their host to fail to raise children to reproductive age will get weeded out, but it can take many generations.
Memes don't need to be passed on hereditarily. It is entirely possible for a meme which absolutely prevents the host from reproducing to persist indefinitely so long as it spreads to new hosts at around the same rate hosts die out. See clerical celibacy. It is also possible for memes to lie dormant and then resurge after an extended period of time by which all the original hosts are dead.
good point!
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...which does just about as much as voting (that is, precious little). If we're ever going to claw ourselves out of this (or any) mess, we need ranked choice or something like it. The giant douche / turd sandwich dichotomy needs to end, for everyone on any side of the political spectrum.
If you want to change the way voting works in the US (and oh boy do I), you first must win an election in the current system to gain enough power to do that. So many american leftists just seem to ignore that and it makes things very difficult.
Not quite so, ballot initiatives are actually the best bet. They've been successful in local politics primarily so far, but the initial results are promising (1).
You're right, that the closer you get to that core of federal power the more resistance you come up against, but once there's a powerful enough popular groundswell (that is I suppose, and if and not a when) you can move to mass protests, general strikes, guillotines, etc. This is why it's important to talk about, esp. around those who don't really know about it yet.
1 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranked-choice_voting_in_the_Un...