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Trying to use Bluesky without getting burned again

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Re: Trying to use Bluesky without getting burned again

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post #203

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They don't need to because the normies are profitable enough.

Do you not understand fiduciary responsibility? If they can charge and make more money they are effectively obligated to. They would need to sell their investors against the plan that everyone uses AND propose a plan that will make more money. Reddit went through this around their IPO.

Blue Sky hasn't done an IPO.

Re: Trying to use Bluesky without getting burned again

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A similar but I think simpler approach is to just act like a celebrity or a brand. When X celebrity joins a social network, their fans follow them on that platform. When the celebrity leaves and goes elsewhere, the fans follow. The value follows the celebrity because the celebrity’s value isn’t in the content on the social network, it’s in their personal brand itself. Therefore if you’re going to invest in creating v…

I‘m not sure if this actually works. In 2019 the live streaming platform mixer tried this and payed several of the biggest streamers a lot of money for exclusive contracts. The userbase didn’t follow and the service was shut down a year later.

I don't think that was a specific repudiation of that model in particular, I think there's a bit more of a fundamental strategic misunderstanding from the people trying to make Mixer into a thing.

To the extent that bringing big streamers onto the platform had an impact, it was a positive one I would say. But even with them there was too much inertia.

Re: Trying to use Bluesky without getting burned again

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post #322

It’s an interesting point but social media (especially X and Bluesky) is largely ephemeral content. If it goes away, what have you really lost? Hot takes? Running your own blog on your own domain is a good idea and anything long-form would be on there not Bluesky, no? The vast majority of people will run their blog on a platform though, be that Wordpress or Bear or Ghost etc all of which (in theory!) could go away. W…

>So maybe transportable content standards is the most important thing to solve?

Right, and I would suggest this is what the activitypub protocol is for.

Re: Trying to use Bluesky without getting burned again

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> communities have to do a lot more work to understand the idiosyncratic policies of each server [links to a github issue that is 90% internal project bureocracy, 10% "didn't read the terms"]. I think this is actually another instance of the "people don't actually want to pay for choice": the moderation policies for the big social sites are just incomprehensible, but you don't have any agency over them if you use the…

I had a record scratch moment at that point in the article also. For one I'm not so sure that the masses are going through server by server looking up content polices with a microscope. They're just signing up and posting.

For those who need them, they are accessible enough, and in fact I think it was the population looking for those that was effectively the first movers onto Mastodon.

Re: Trying to use Bluesky without getting burned again

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At least 6 with my not-that-common (maybe somewhere in the middle) first and last name combination. Maybe more, but at least six of the emails meant for others that I've received, implied they live at those six unique locations. I know one of them likes to get the vegetarian meal option when traveling internationally by plane. (Companies should really validate email address OWNERSHIP before spamming innocent people.)

Are you sure they were confused people? More probable explanation is that they made typos while entering their email. The alternative explanation, that they roitinely use [your name].[your last name]@gmail.com as their email, and don't realize that it never works is... unlikely IMO.

My wife has been receiving medical appointments, test results, event tickets, package tracking numbers and so on destined to a few old ladies for years. I once tracked the sons and nephews of one and told them, and they apparently thought I was some kind of scammer and didn't return messages after a couple exchanges, so to this day she still receives all those.

Re: Trying to use Bluesky without getting burned again

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post #339

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I always allocate an email of my+company@myemail.com and the number of email validators that don't accept that "+" is a legit email character is infuriating.

That's why I've updated my SMTP config to handle - the same way as + 10+ years ago. And to avoid "why is my business name in your email?" questions, I rot13 it.

Your first sentence took me a second to mentally parse and understand, so to help anyone with that same issue later, what was meant is:

> That's why I've updated my SMTP config to handle the hyphen character the same way as the plus sign over 10 years ago.

Re: Trying to use Bluesky without getting burned again

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post #83

> “you’re telling me there’s a @choldgraf@hachyderm.io and a @choldgraf@mastodon.social and they’re two different people?!” While the author has a valid point about Bluesky having more momentum and some UX advantages over Mastodon, this is silly. Most people already know that choldgraf@gmail.com and choldgraf@hotmail.com might be different people.

Technical folks might. Non-technical folks fall for this kind of thing in phishing attempts often enough that I can see the confusing complaint having some merit.

>Technical folks might. Non-technical folks fall for this kind of thing

Right, but at that point we're just talking about general functional literacy. These same people are going to have trouble logging into their bank from a different computer, or ordering from a Wendy's menu or getting an oil change. Most people don't, and they sign up and post their memes, and follow their people, the platform reaches is critical mass and the world keeps on turning.

Re: Trying to use Bluesky without getting burned again

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Would be interesting to ask the author for a review of NOSTR afterwards. At NOSTR the account functions without servers, you get private keys that certify your messages as yours no matter where or when you post them. From that perspective there isn't a private castle since you can send your messages to any of the several hundred relays existing today. It isn't VC funded but doesn't really cater to woke people and the…

> there isn't moderation of any kind

How can this possibly work? What if someone posts illegal content?

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