Google's results from the AIStudio are really good results. Everything there is good. Probably because the studio has better models than are currently being used for general search.
Google's Results Are Infested, Open AI Is Using Their Playbook from the 2000s
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#402> Does ChatGPT Search have trust? Open AI isn't monetizing its search just yet, but AI has its own issues with hallucinations. Everywhere where SEO people congregate, they talk only about this: how to produce content that will eventually end up in training data for LLMs, so that when you ask about anything remotely connected to a given brand, its products will show up in the response. Ads are bad enough today, but it…
>Ads are bad enough today, but it's possible the future will be worse: product placement in everything, everywhere, all of the time.
Right, and it could be that a measurable criteria to optimize for will be the path finding from prompts to naturalistic conversations that mention products or even that reinforce consumerist thought patterns and consumerist self perception.
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#403Earlier quoted context omitted.
The paid version has had web access for at least a year March 23rd 2023 https://openai.com/index/chatgpt-plugins/ That’s 666 days. So you are off by over “one order of magnitude”
A plugin? You’re joking.
It’s a “plug in” built into the paid version of ChatGPT, run by default and created by OpenAI.
This isn’t a third party obscure plug in.
All “tools” use a plug in architecture
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#404Just sharing an anecdote: I was searching for a quote that I'd heard in an audiobook the other day. I just had the general paraphrase, and didn't feel like scanning through the chapters to go find it. This was a somewhat obscure source. Google had just straight garbage for me. The quote was political in nature, and I felt like the results were fighting general tone-policing filters and were tuned for recent events. o…
There’s so much low effort, low hanging fruit that Google could do to improve results, that I just assume they've realized those things are unprofitable for them. I mean just de-ranking any article with an affiliate link alone would skyrocket the relevance of what content you surface on search. The problem for Google is, they’re incentivized to make the results worse than the SERP ads. If the organic results are too…
I cringe whenever I hear the "it's SEO that ruined the search results" excuse for Google's incompetence/negligence.
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#405Earlier quoted context omitted.
All of them, because I'm not on any social media. I also mostly put obscure things on my website that aren't easily found elsewhere online, so very specific searches tend to end up on my site. Also probably why I get email from people visiting as it's one of the few places people can reference said info.
So you aren’t willing to put in the work necessary to get your site recognized in 2024 and you don’t see that as a problem?
Eh? My site is recognized and found on google searches. People find the info they are looking for and sometimes email me asking follow up questions. The site is working as intended so I'm not sure what you're talking about.
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#407Earlier quoted context omitted.
1) I was making an analogy. 2) I took at look at the most recent CMS data[0] I could find (from 2022,) and out of the top ten owners of hospitals in the United States, zero are payers. I only recognize about half of the parties in the 11-20 part of the list, but of the ones I do recognize, one is related to a payer. I can find no data to support your assertion that insurance companies are purchasing hospitals. They a…
The biggest examples would be https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Pittsburgh_Medic... and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaiser_Permanente . I keep hoping my local university hospital system will offer such a thing.
I'm familiar with both organizations. 1) the OP asserted that insurance companies "increasingly" owned hospitals. UPMC and Kaiser have existed for decades. 2) together, they represent less than 2% of the hospitals in the United States.
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#408I honestly don't mind the current Google Search Results page design and additional features.
For me, it's the web in general that isn't the same. Google Search is probably just as good, but I have an idea that the content to be indexed isn't what it was.
Has the world changed, or have I changed?
Probably both.
The WWW of content isn't the same, and i don't search for the same things anymore.
My use of search has become integrated in my patterns in the physical world. I need to know what products are in stock, where things are, when a restaurant is open and so on.
For those searches, Google is generally excellent I find.
Also, I actually find Google's AI Answers to be pretty decent.
Even if I do ethically disagree with denying the original content authors those page views.
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#409All I see on Google for most searches is ads and SEO spam that gets the ranking and clicks. It’s only once I spend time scrolling it that I realize it has the telltale signs like very lengthy text that doesn’t answer the title succinctly.
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#410Just sharing an anecdote: I was searching for a quote that I'd heard in an audiobook the other day. I just had the general paraphrase, and didn't feel like scanning through the chapters to go find it. This was a somewhat obscure source. Google had just straight garbage for me. The quote was political in nature, and I felt like the results were fighting general tone-policing filters and were tuned for recent events. o…
I didn't paraphrase, I put the exact quote[1] I had copied earlier from goodreads in google and got garbage.
I use only local LLM's, So if anyone has Open AI's search tools give it a shot.
[1] "Few hundred years of Western society that we have lost the ability to memorise vast amounts of information."
― Lynne Kelly, Memory Craft: Improve your memory using the most powerful methods from around the world