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What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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Post by tanseydavid »

Dem_Boys wrote: post #390
matrix87 wrote: post #368

I don't know if this has been posted already, but here is his manifesto https://archive.is/2024.12.09-230659/https://breloomlegacy.s... Sounds like both he and his mother were suffering from chronic pain and UHC dicked them around and refused to act in good faith

He would be awaken in the night to his mother screaming in pain while United healthcare denied claims and refused new treatment. She had severe neuropathy. Holy shit this would leave a scar on anyone. I couldn't even imagine the emotional pain this causes. Not saying this justifies murder but what would you do if a close loved one was screaming in agony daily and there's nothing you can do about it because the insura…

And then later: "Now my own chronic back pain wakes me in the night, screaming in pain."

What an interesting coincidence that he developed a medical condition that wakes him with screaming as well.

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Post by two27 »

aorloff wrote: post #207
breadwinner wrote: post #44

He was carrying all of the evidence with him, including the fake ID he used at the hostel, the gun & suppressor, mask, and even a handwritten manifesto that points to his motivation. It seems he wanted to be found.

The only part I don't get now is the cell phone I assumed he had some help with the timing via the burner phone But this all looks very lone wolfish now

https://support.substack.com/hc/en-us/articles/360037870412-...

If real, he scheduled a post to be released everyday at ~6pm EST. If he wasn't caught that day he would delete the scheduled post, and reschedule for the next day at 6pm.

I say 6 because it was the earliest snapshot of the site. Looks like the post just got taken down off sub stack and I can't view the exact time of post.

That's likely how it happened

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Post by sameAsYou »

profsummergig wrote: post #239

How did someone recognize him from that half-face photo? There must be millions of people in the East Coast who look like that.

I think police only released half-face photo to media. They had more angles and pictures of the person. Could also be that they got additional photos from a car ride that has been mentioned in many reports.

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Post by leocgcd »

iambateman wrote: post #382

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Rule of law also allows for banality of evil and bureaucratized, monopolized violence. I've seen some other arguments against sympathy in this thread (the murderer was wealthy himself, insurance companies aren't actually the archvillains of healthcare). Those other arguments haven't convinced me, but they certainly complicate the narrative.

A blind appeal to "rule of law" is the one argument that I think is stupid on its face. Law as the sole moral barometer will always result in marginalization and injustice. It is the function of protest, civil disobedience, and yes, sometimes violence, to shape law as a function of morality.

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Post by garrettgarcia »

Dem_Boys wrote: post #390
matrix87 wrote: post #368

I don't know if this has been posted already, but here is his manifesto https://archive.is/2024.12.09-230659/https://breloomlegacy.s... Sounds like both he and his mother were suffering from chronic pain and UHC dicked them around and refused to act in good faith

He would be awaken in the night to his mother screaming in pain while United healthcare denied claims and refused new treatment. She had severe neuropathy. Holy shit this would leave a scar on anyone. I couldn't even imagine the emotional pain this causes. Not saying this justifies murder but what would you do if a close loved one was screaming in agony daily and there's nothing you can do about it because the insura…

He could have asked for charity, or asked hi multi-millionaire grandfather or fabulously wealthy family for help, or sued the insurance company, or taken out loans, or made a ton of money of his own and paid cash and negotiated directly with the providers, or mortgage the family mansion, sell everything he owns. There are millions of things he could have done.

"Nothing you can do about it" is just a lie people tell themselves to justify violence.

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Post by goatlover »

tines wrote: post #238
JKCalhoun wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

More or less lays out his motive right there. I disagree with his thoughts on violence. When you try to solve a problem by inviting violence to dinner you'll find you have a guest you are unable to excuse.

> I disagree with his thoughts on violence. When you try to solve a problem by inviting violence to dinner you'll find you have a guest you are unable to excuse. This is a pretty shallow opinion imo. The government operates on violence. America was founded in a violent revolution. The question people are asking isn't about whether violence has its place (it does); it's about how bad things have to get before you stop…

Do you have any idea just how bad a violent revolution in modern day America would get? The recent Civil War movie doesn't do it justice. I'm assuming anyone advocating for this has swallowed Russian propaganda.

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Post by goatlover »

vouaobrasil wrote: post #230
jmyeet wrote: post #194

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personally, I don't put a lot of weight on that. Particularly for people who are terminally online, the Unabomber manifesto is kinda "edgy content". A lot of these people want to come off as "edgy". He had Mein Kampf in his Goodreads profile too. Without other evidence, I don't think that really says anything either. Good example: his Goodreads had "Introduction to Algorithms" in it. This is the de facto textbook at…

Ted K's book is a lucid commentary on technology and society and recommends the dismantling of technological society. Not sure why it would be considered "edgy".

Dismantling technological society isn't realistic and wouldn't be remotely a good thing, so yeah, that's very edgy.

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Post by garrettgarcia »

xivzgrev wrote: post #325
breadwinner wrote: post #44

He was carrying all of the evidence with him, including the fake ID he used at the hostel, the gun & suppressor, mask, and even a handwritten manifesto that points to his motivation. It seems he wanted to be found.

I don’t think so, per article: He "became quiet and started to shake" when asked if he had recently been to New York, according to the criminal complaint filed in Pennsylvania. Being smart can lead to arrogance, which leads to stumbles. like carrying evidence, dining in public, etc.

He says in the manifesto that they won't take him alive. He planned to go out shooting, then wimped out.
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