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Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson

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Re: Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson

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Post by skwee357 »

I’m very disappointed.

Woke up at 4am (EU here), to tune for the main event. Bought Netflix just for this. The women fight went good, no buffering, 4K.

As it approached the time for Paul vs Tyson, it started to first drop to 140p, and then constantly buffer. Restarted my chromecast a few times, tried from laptop, and finally caught a stream on my mobile phone via mobile network rather than my wifi.

The TV Netflix kept blaming my internet which kept coming back as “fast”.

Ended up watching the utterly disappointing, senior abuse, live stream on my mobile phone with 360p quality.

Gonna cancel Netflix and never pay for it it again, nor watch hyped up boxing matches.

Re: Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson

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Post by jpalawaga »

neilv wrote: post #332
jpalawaga wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From what I've heard, Netflix has really diluted the culture that people know of from the Patty McCord days. In particular, they have been revising their compensation structure to issue RSUs, add in a bunch of annoying review process, add in a bunch of leveling and titles, begin hiring down market (e.g. non-sr employees), etc. In addition to doing this, shuffling headcount, budgets, and title quotas around has in gen…

Were they not able to hire enough top-skilled people? If not, why not? Or did they have a lot of needs that they decided didn't require top-skilled people? Or was this a beancounter thing, of someone deciding that the company was paying more money on staffing than they needed to, without understanding it?

Combination of 2 and 3. The business changed. Streaming was more or less a solved problem for Netflix. They needed money for content, not expensive engineers. Ted is co-ceo… you can see where the priority is.

Re: Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson

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Post by thrwaway1985882 »

bryanrasmussen wrote: post #341
JCharante wrote: post #311

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> or he actually is a "fucking moron" and you failed as a manager to elevate his skills/performance to a satisfactory level. sometimes managers don't have the authority to fire somebody and are forced to keep their subordinates. Yes good managers can polish gold, but polishing poop still results in poop.

I was consulting at a place, there was a very bad programmer whose code looked sort of like this cost arrayIneed = []; const arrayIdontNeed = firstArray.map(item => { if(item.hasProp) { arrayIneed.push(item); } }); return arrayIneed; the above is very much a cleaned up and elegant version of what he would actually push into the repo. he left for a competitor in the same industry, this was at the second biggest compan…

> the manager said there were some layoffs coming up and he would have been out with those but because of the way things worked it didn't make sense to let him go earlier.

Incentives are fucked across the board right now.

Move on a low performer today and you'll have an uphill battle for a backfill at all. If you get one, many companies are "level-normalizing" (read: level-- for all backfills). Or perhaps your management thinks the job could be done overseas cheaper, or you get pushed to turn it into a set of tasks so you can farm it out to contractors.

So you keep at least some shitty devs to hold their positions, and as ballast to throw overboard when your bosses say "5% flat cut, give me your names". We all do it. If we get back to ZIRP I'll get rid of the actively bad devs when I won't risk losing their position entirely. Until then, it's all about squeezing what limited value they have out and keeping them away from anything important.

Re: Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson

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Post by fred_is_fred »

tass wrote: post #333
freditup wrote: post #8

I wonder if there will be any long term reputational repercussions for Netflix because of this. Amongst SWEs, Netflix is known for hiring the best people and their streaming service normally seems very solid. Other streaming services have definitely caught up a bit and are much more reliable then in the early days, but my impression still has always been that Netflix is a step above the rest technically. This sure do…

Was live streaming much of a use case for them before this? They stream plenty of pre recorded video, often collocated. Live streaming seems like something they aren’t yet good at.

If places like Paramount+ can figure it out, Netflix, given their 10+ year head start on streaming and strong engineering culture, should also have been able to. And if you don't like my example, literally every other streaming service has streamed live sports without issue. YT TV, Hulu, Paramount+, Amazon Prime, Peacock, even Apple TV streams live sports.

It may be "new" to them, but they should have been ready.

Re: Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson

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Post by fred_is_fred »

anakaine wrote: post #134
dghughes wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wifi wifi or wifi as in your ISP Internet connection? Sp many people now call an Internet connection "wifi". Anyway, network cable is the only way to go!

"Many people", those who call their ISP connection WiFi, are technology potato's.

To be fair, a lot of people pay their ISP for a modem/router combo and connect to something like "Xfinity" at their house. So to them, there is no difference.

Re: Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson

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Post by hiyer »

On a tangential note, the match totally looked fixed to me - Tyson was barely throwing any punches. I understand age is not on his side, but he looked plenty spry when he was ducking, weaving and dodging. It seemed to me he could have done better in terms of attacking as well.

Re: Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson

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Post by sgarland »

horns4lyfe wrote: post #397
_giorgio_ wrote: post #356

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I don't understand why nobody here believes you. There's no reason to doubt what you say, probably people identify with the mistreated one. Why?

Because the idea that all the engineers that work at his large company are morons is absurd. Anyone in that situation that believes that and even more, states it, is just making their own character flaws apparent.

It’s hyperbole, like a teacher complaining to others, “my kids were all crazed animals today.”

I’ve worked with engineers where I had to wonder how they found their computer every morning. I can easily see how a few of those would make you bitter and angry.

Re: Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson

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Post by ajdude »

It wasn't even just buffering issues, the feed would just stop and never start again until I paused it and then clicked "watch live" with the remote.

It was really bad. My Dad has always been a fan of boxing so I came over to watch the whole thing with him.

He has his giant inflatable screen and a projector that we hooked up in the front lawn to watch it, But everything kept buffering. We figured it was the Wi-Fi so he packed everything up and went inside only to find the same thing happening on ethernet.

He was really looking forward to watching it on the projector and Netflix disappointed him.

Re: Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson

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Post by sgarland »

iLoveOncall wrote: post #369
ilrwbwrkhv wrote: post #213

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can't solve your way out of a complex problem that you have created and which wasn't needed in the first place. The entire microservices thing was overly complex with zero benefits I spoke to multiple Netflix senior technicians about this. They said that's the whole shtick.

That's a ridiculous statement. PrimeVideo is the leader in terms of sports events streaming over internet and it is composed of hundreds of microservices. Live streaming is just much harder than streaming, and it takes a years of work and a huge headcount to get something good.

Prime famously undid some amount of their microservices recently because it couldn’t keep up, and was hideously expensive.
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