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Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

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Re: Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

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Searching with "Reddit" at the end of every query helps but I suppose it's only a matter of time when most content on Reddit is also AI-generated.

If you know anyone who works in marketing/PR, ask them how they use Reddit. That has been gamified as much as SEO since about 2020. I’m assuming, anything except “why is there a fire in this street?” kind of posts are just ads at this point.

I wonder at what point it'll be replaced with "site:4chan.net".

Re: Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

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Spam (created by humans) evolves. So do humans. If Google prioritizes AI slop, Google will be deprioritized.

AI slop (or convincing lies) is not distinguishable from genuine, human-generated content. Machines definitely can't do it, and humans often can't either. That problem with get worse.

Why is that a problem, anyway? If machines can play chess better than any human, it is reasonable to assume that they can write articles better than many humans. What's wrong with Internet filled with good content generated by AI?

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That's a fascinating perspective. I imagine A blog should do something like press releases and describe and progress made on the actual website or plans for-. Forums should then play with ideas and chat is for hammering out details that are hard to communicate or overly noisy and for talking about stuff unrelated to the project.

> I imagine A blog should do something like press releases and describe and progress made on the actual website or plans for- A lot of older websites actually used to do this with a “what’s new” section or page. With blogging, “what’s new” became the entire site, with almost the entirety of the content (everything that wasn't new) now hidden. Ironically, after mentioning that discussion dies off incredibly quickly wh…

Ive seen it! But yeah, I typically only browse the best stories section, basically I really want some human curation in my feed which might help with the vast amount of infogarbage generated by llms?

Re: Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

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This was probably always the likely outcome of an internet economy that revolves around the production and monetization of "content". We started by putting advertisements on existing content, then moved to social networking and social media, which was essentially an engine for crowdsourcing the production of greater amounts of content against which to show advertisements. Because money is up for grabs, producing cont…

> We started by putting advertisements on existing content, then moved to social networking and social media, which was essentially an engine for crowdsourcing the production of greater amounts of content against which to show advertisements. I see a lot of people talk nostalgically about blogs, but they were an early example of the internet changing from ever green content to churning out articles on content farms.…

Also with some blogs we started to attach content to personalities, which was different than consuming content from another internet stranger.

And with personalities you have some form of relation to, you want these more recent updates instead of sticking to topics of interest.

Reddit is at least still focused on topics instead of people. I think this is why for some it still is more interesting than platforms like Insta, Facebook or Twitter.

Re: Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

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AI slop (or convincing lies) is not distinguishable from genuine, human-generated content. Machines definitely can't do it, and humans often can't either. That problem with get worse.

Why is that a problem, anyway? If machines can play chess better than any human, it is reasonable to assume that they can write articles better than many humans. What's wrong with Internet filled with good content generated by AI?

AI can't create good (meaning truthful) content. It's literally impossible for LLMs to be hallucination free. It's just not how they work.

The problem is going to get worse as hallucinations are used as training data because even the AI companies can't tell the difference between AI content and human content.

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Reddit is already lost. I was talking to the mods in a large political subreddit and they said after Reddit started charging for API access, all the tools they used to keep on top of the trolls and bots stopped working, and the quality of the whole subreddit declined visibly and dramatically.

It's not just the mods, it's also the culture of the website that changed.

Agreed. There still are resistant subs, but the main culture moved in a worse direction. That is subjective of course, but it isn't just reddit trying to "clean house" that makes everything a little more sterile and boring. It also become even more intolerant of "wrong" opinions. That has always been the case to a degree, but it got seriously worse.

Re: Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

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True, and we can go back to any type of media who always have a bias, but overall it just feels different. On one hand, humans writing and humans communicating, even if they have an agenda, is one thing. On the other hand, machines writing and machines communicating is a different level. Maybe I am overall in a bad mood regarding all this, but this recent article https://time.com/7026050/chatgpt-quit-teaching-ai-essa…

Yeah that's a good point. It's not so much that it was already happening before, but it's the shear quantity of it. People have been doctoring images for political gain for forever, but that at least took some photoshop skills. Now anyone can just pop out thousands of misinformation photos, articles, and even now videos in a few hours.

Exactly, yeah - the noise to signal ratio is shifted catastrophically because you can generate infinite amounts of bullshit in a flash. You don't have to trickily convince people that X is true instead of Y with some carefully planted forgery, you can just drown out the Y with a billion fake X.

It effectively kills the non-walled internet as an information repository.

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Watermarking I think is supposed to be the goal, but I don’t think anyone can think that the web is in anything but managed decline. The AI feeding itself AI will just end it all. I think Platformer describes it best: https://www.platformer.news/google-io-ai-search-sundar-picha... The question is what comes next, and I don’t think anyone has an answer to that.

Well, and once this kills the web then Google's AI no longer has a data source its AI can tap to answer questions about anything that happens afterward, so it kind of needs the web to at least limp along.

Google was for the Open Web since day 1 but their aggressive ad based business model kind of doomed the Open Web because a lot of people were also incentivized cause of Google to aggressively peruse ad revenue. I think the first degree of separation between websites should be which ones are commercial and which ones are non-commercial. Of course that doesn't mean that commercial websites are bad because essentially what you want is quality information and content but at least you know what you are getting into. E.g. if you are consuming content and information from non-commercial website you know that the owner of the website is not trying to sell you something via promoted content or via affiliate link or via something else. The main question is how do you support the Open Web? Is it ads, subscription, donations etc. Hobbyists are the champions of the Open Web because they produce quality information and content free of charge for the sake of helping people and because they love creating it.
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