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Re: ReMarkable Paper Pro

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Post by VeejayRampay »

sp1rit wrote: post #335
boomskats wrote: post #285

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've owned a rm2 since xmas 2020 and really used to love it. I even brought an old obsidian plugin for it back from the dead. But the power button gave up 13 months in and they were dicks about it, and then when the pen nib holder disintegrated and they insisted it wasn't a known defect, I just gave up and it's been sat on my shelf ever since. For anyone still into them though, a Lamy EMR pen coupled with the Wacom f…

They absolutely know about this, given that the seemingly reworked markers for this tablet have a redesigned nib holder that doesn't look like it breaks as easily as the old ones. This is a common enough issue that there are people on ebay selling caps to replace the broken nib holder, but they seem to expensive for what amounts to a piece of 3D-printed plastic; I might just look into your solution with the lamy pen.…

stopped using mine because of the nib holder (mainly because I was furious at the build quality)

Re: ReMarkable Paper Pro

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Post by tristor »

I have a reMarkable 2 that I use pretty regularly. I have had the same pin nib breakage other folks have had, but ate the $130 to replace my pen. Since that, I haven't had any issues. It's generally a great device that I enjoy using, although I don't use it while I'm at home because I have my custom mechanical keyboard and can type much faster than I write in Standard Notes in Markdown. Every time I take a trip though, I take my rM2 with me, and it's my primary on-the-go notetaking tool and I take a /lot/ of notes.

I did a bit of research and decided to go ahead and jump on the Paper Pro. I hope it's worth it, because it's quite a bit more expensive than the rM2 was.

Re: ReMarkable Paper Pro

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Post by destraynor »

laserbeam wrote: post #123

I love my remarkable 2. Bought it before "Connect" was a thing, so I don't have a subscription. But I cannot recommend it to anyone. There are better alternatives out there and MyDeepGuide (youtube) has reviewed them all better than I ever could. The software is moving too slowly and often in a wrong direction. Especially since they released the keyboard folio most updates were around typing (which is supar on any ei…

100 times this. The hardware is great. The software sucks.

I literally can't believe in 2024 it's still not straight forward to "send a blog post from my phone to my remarkable" without some mangling happening along the way. It was genuinely jawdropping for me, I ended up contacting an employee on LinkedIn to confirm that this wasn't a well supported workflow

Re: ReMarkable Paper Pro

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Post by Ancapistani »

thefz wrote: post #254

Will I be able to use it without creating an account with the company? Will I be able to use it if the company fails? Will I be able to install third party firmware and software?

I've had an rM2 for a few years now, and can answer these.

> Will I be able to use it without creating an account with the company?

I _think_ so. I created one, and am not willing to wipe my device to see if it's required. I _have_ used mine for months without connecting it to the network, so it's certainly not required on a regular basis.

> Will I be able to use it if the company fails?

Yes.

The "Connect" service is nice and all, but really the big that that it provides is an easy way to sync files to and from the device. That's not required; you can just use USB to transfer if you want.

> Will I be able to install third party firmware and software?

Yes.

There are active F/OSS projects out there for the rM2, including custom bootloaders, OS forks, and applications.

Re: ReMarkable Paper Pro

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Post by kkfx »

Well... While I admire reMarkable in technical terms, I'll not buy a black box where I have to hack the box just to manage my system. I do not care much about handwriting recognition and other "cool solution to help the end user", I do care about no eye strain reading of LONG damn documents, where scrolling distract instead of help, and casual ability to draw things. Period.

Unfortunately they took a classic commercial path, maybe fueled by many "users desires" described by users who have not much an idea about how they can use such devices and the result is well... Not exiting especially for the price. I have no issue paying something I own, I do not pay for something I can only use.

Re: ReMarkable Paper Pro

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Post by Ancapistani »

Apocryphon wrote: post #361
hoherd wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've read quite a bit on Kindle and Nook, iPad, and iPhone, and I think these Remarkable style eink writing devices and kindle style reading devices are each firmly in a small niche. The tech is really sexy, but for most people I think these kinds of devices and kindle kind of devices are impractical. For instance, with Kindle and nook, the best use I got out of it was reading on the train and bus where having a pape…

That PineNote page doesn't even have screenshots. Absolutely pathetic marketing.

My understanding is that Pine64 isn't really trying to sell you anything. It's closer to a "nerd co-op" than a for-profit company.

Re: ReMarkable Paper Pro

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Post by Ancapistani »

diffeomorphism wrote: post #326
vimsee wrote: post #97

I want to challenge the idea that drawing/writing on what feels like paper is subpar compared to a surface that have the pencil glide a bit more. I always thought writing on paper is something we have to deal with because paper is.. well, the physical medium we always used because it is cheap to manufacture.

Higher quality, fountain pen-friendly paper tends to be smoother than regular paper (e.g, clairefontaine, tomoe river, japanese paper in general) yet still much less slippery than a glass surface. How slippery/grippy you want things to be depends on the type of pen you use (gel, ink, pencil, brush,etc.) and to some extent also preference, but people generally agree that there are cases which work just badly: very sli…

Yep.

I'm a hardcore fountain pen user, to the point that I have a lathe sitting in my office behind me right now that I use to manufacture replacement parts for pens that have been out of production longer than I've been alive.

Prior to buying the rM2, I kept all of my notes on Clairefontaine notebooks. I've stopped that completely and use the rM2. Their "fountain pen" tool is an adequate reproduction of the experience for everyday use in my opinion. I've been using it daily for around two years now, and have no real complaints. It's a very limited device, but they nailed it as a "replacement for paper and pen".

I also have an iPad Pro, Apple Pencil, and have tried all the various screen protectors. They're all a worse physical experience than the rM2, and I've never found an app that has a fountain pen tool that comes close to being realistic in my opinion.

Re: ReMarkable Paper Pro

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Post by XlA5vEKsMISoIln »

gizmo wrote: post #54

What does the ReMarkable really excel at? You can make notes, but the software is not that great from what I've seen. It doesn't have end-to-end encryption so I wouldn't use it for anything important. You can read PDFs but typing notes is much faster on a desktop/laptop, and for nontechnical books a kindle is much better form factor. You can use it to draw, but e-ink is inferior to a wacom tablet or iPad pro. e-ink i…

I find it very useful when doing CAD (with intent to 3D print something). It lets me quickly sketch rough shapes and note measurements I've taken, visualize ideas to show them to colleagues, do geometry "math" with less chance of messing up. Paper would work just fine, I guess, but RM has editing and undo, so reworking large regions doesn't result in attempts of striking out with more ambiguous lines.

So, to generalize, I'd suggest it for people that do bespoke construction of some sort often.

Re: ReMarkable Paper Pro

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Post by Ancapistani »

morning-coffee wrote: post #224

We've reached "peak something " with this much collective energy spent contemplating an expensive and complicated "solution" to a problem that is solved pretty simply and cheaply by a good spiral bound notebook and a nice pen. I love this marketing soundbite too: > “reMarkable gives me the deep focus required to work on complex problems.” Mmmm. Yeah. I usually have to find a quiet place and eliminate distractions to…

> a problem that is solved pretty simply and cheaply by a good spiral bound notebook and a nice pen.

You're right, but only mostly :)

The paper and pen that it replaced for me certainly wasn't cheap. I bought the rM2, keyboard folio, and the pen, so I'm all-in for around $1k USD. My EDC pens are all around the $150-$400 mark.

There are use cases that it does much better, though. I regularly use mine in Zoom meetings, and the desktop app allows me to screencast my rM2 to the call. It's super nice to be able to draw a diagram "on paper" and have everyone on the call see what I'm doing.

> I can just carry this new device around with me and never lose deep focus!

This is a net zero, at least for me. Before, I had two notebooks (one for work, one for personal stuff) and a pen. Now I have a single device that's the same height and width, but is about 1/3 as thick. The weight is a bit less. It's not distracting because all I can do with it is take notes and read PDFs/ebooks.

Actually, I take it back. It's a net win. I no longer have a separate Kindle that I carry with me.

Re: ReMarkable Paper Pro

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Post by thefz »

Ancapistani wrote: post #404
thefz wrote: post #254

Will I be able to use it without creating an account with the company? Will I be able to use it if the company fails? Will I be able to install third party firmware and software?

I've had an rM2 for a few years now, and can answer these. > Will I be able to use it without creating an account with the company? I _think_ so. I created one, and am not willing to wipe my device to see if it's required. I _have_ used mine for months without connecting it to the network, so it's certainly not required on a regular basis. > Will I be able to use it if the company fails? Yes. The "Connect" service is…

Thanks.
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