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The only tourist in Moldova

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Re: The only tourist in Moldova

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Considering the staggering numbers of Ukrainians killed, maimed, displaced, deported, and more, in the fight for independence from terrorist Russia, referring to that country with its correct name is a sign of respect and acknowledgment.

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For this conversation, I'm staying focused on Ukraine.

I suggest you do the same, otherwise there's a risk of diluting a very important topic.

The Kremlin has followed on from Nazi Germany in evolving and maturing its propaganda tactics. One of these tactics is to devalue and delegitimize other nations.

The addition of one simple word - "the" - is enough to shift the perception of a country (with its own culture, language, and history) into that of a mere region (an errant extension of Russia that needs to be brought back into the fold).

Russia has a long history of terrorism and genocide. It was one of the 'great' imperial powers, and its crimes over the last century were never punished, the way Germany was. Now, with invasion, further genocide, and threats of nuclear aggression, there's an urgent need for the world to step up and step forward to eradicate Russia altogether.

From the propagandist's mouth: "Russia is by far the largest country in the world, covering more than a ninth of the Earth’s land area. It extends across the whole of northern Asia and 40% of Europe... The Russian Federation includes 21 republics, 9 territories, 46 regions, 1 autonomous region, 4 autonomous districts, and 2 cities of federal subordination" (https://canada.mid.ru/en/o_rossii/russia_in_facts_and_number...)

Considering how many other nations were subsumed by Muscovy, your assertion of "noble white people" is inflammatory and irrelevant.

Furthermore - to pre-empt anyone who might be offended - I refer to uncountable acts of terror, genocide, violation of the 'rules of war', and violation of the UN Charter. Keep in mind, Russia has an illegitimate permanent seat on the UN Security Council.

Put simply: Russia has forfeited its right to exist.

Re: The only tourist in Moldova

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So, maybe that is the difference to the German language? Here in the news you can hear "die Ukraine" (the Ukraine) all the time. And usually any "rules" in the rough vicinity of political correctness, anti-discrimination or simple politeness are meticulously adhered to in German news. Which I am personally fine with.

Oh, one more thing[0] The guy says 'just promoted to an official status ... in the past month'. So he himself confirms, what for the 33 years they didn't bother with a language 'which is spoken very widely'. And suddenly, in the year 2022, not only it's spoken 'very widely' despite being non-existent in any conceivable metric[1] before, but promoted to 'a secondary official status nonetheless' absolutely ignoring the…

Ukraine is a sovereign nation, with the right to make its own decisions.

Neither you nor Russia have any say in this whatsoever.

If you still vehemently disagree, the best recourse is to get Ukrainian citizenship, enter politics, and make your case. That's how this works.

Re: The only tourist in Moldova

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How would they ever know if you won't outright tell them yourself (like being a famous person an posting your itinerary on the instagram)? They'll see you've been to Russia, if you use the same passport for both visas, which may be frowned upon right now, but not illegal. But which Russian cities you've been to (and de-facto Mariupol is just that right now) — who the hell knows?

That's pretty easy: you cross the border, the border guard sees recent stamp showing you traveled to r---ia and you don't fit the profile of someone having a family there, which trip the alarm to look into you slightly more than usual (in normal days the only thing border guards do is check that passport is not forged). Then the obvious question to "where you exactly you have been there and what for" will come out un…

That's ridiculously stretched. Russia is huge. Plenty of choice of "where you've been to". And you absolutely don't have to answer anything about where you've been to in Russia, because it's actually not their fucking business. Worst they can do is not let you into Ukraine. Surely, theoretically they can illegally arrest you, and torture you, and whatever, but doing that to a USA citizen (or whoever you are) on a basis of slight suspicion you could've been in Crimea or some other territory they consider theirs inside of Russia, well, that's risking way more than you do.

Re: The only tourist in Moldova

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Plenty of people have two passports for this reason. Lots of things in immigration require you to honestly self-report and have no mechanism to validate at the point-of-entry. For instance, many countries without visa requirements will still ask about criminal records in your native country, but have no access to the data to verify if you tell them you've never even had a parking ticket. But if you get caught later d…

Using two passports is not always the solution. As a dual citizen of two countries, I also have two passports. A couple of years ago I travelled to Malta with the passport from the country I currently live in. One week later I flew over to Israel, where I used the passport of my birth country. I was extensively interrogated at the border, because apparently the system flagged me to the border officer as there was no…

Interesting. But, TBH, it seems pretty obvious in the hindsight: it's a huge red flag that the travel history in the same passport is not self-consistent (as a result of using different passports for entering and leaving the same country).

Re: The only tourist in Moldova

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I've been to Moldova this year during my 15-countries 2-week solo road trip. To be honest it was hard to find interesting (for me) places to visit there. I found Old Orhei, which they try to make a big tourist attraction, to be kinda boring, same for Stephen the Great Central Park, but really liked brutal building of Chișinău State Circus and Romanița Collective Housing. I've skipped Mileștii Mici Winery, as it didn'…

> my 15-countries 2-week solo road trip That's barely a day in each country. Why the speedrun?

For me that was a pretty normal trip, 10th one (2nd one in this year) planned like this.

About 6 hours a day of driving, total visited about 45 out of 52 planned points. For example I don't understand people who go to a beach and spend half a day there, I go, swim for 30 minutes, and I'm out. Same for any other attraction. How long should I spend on a beautiful viewpoint in Greek mountains? For me it's a stop, take photo, admire for 3 minutes, and be on my way. I avoid museums, except transport/communication/computer museums, as they are pretty boring.

I will do exceptions for stuff like Louvre, but sometimes I will just say no to even biggest attractions, like I did earlier this year looking at Stonehenge, +30 minutes of walking and I think +1 hour of driving from my route just to see bunch of rocks - yeah, not for me.

I will go back though, if I found the country particularly nice/pleasing, like I've been to Sweden/Norway/Finland on 2-week road trips two times in summer and two times in winter, and planning another winter one - there is just something about sleeping in car in -15°C (5F) that's just amazing.

Re: The only tourist in Moldova

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I've been to Moldova this year during my 15-countries 2-week solo road trip. To be honest it was hard to find interesting (for me) places to visit there. I found Old Orhei, which they try to make a big tourist attraction, to be kinda boring, same for Stephen the Great Central Park, but really liked brutal building of Chișinău State Circus and Romanița Collective Housing. I've skipped Mileștii Mici Winery, as it didn'…

What about Romania, which is basically the same country (and was before the Soviet Union decided to mess things up)?

I visited/found kinda interesting about 3 points in Romania, have about 15 more wanted as "want to go"

Re: The only tourist in Moldova

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Wasn't its industry developed? The exact same justification/apology used by every colonizing power ever (including the U.S. and all the European powers), of course. Welcome to the club.

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> So, which industries did European countries develop in their African colonies, for example?

Racists usually bring up ports, railways and whatever resource extraction they set up in Africa as their gift to humanity. As the other poster said, that's a very common thing to say for imperialists who justify colonization. Incredibly funny that you keep doubling down on the same tropes without recognizing how they sound.

> Compare that to what USSR developed in Moldavia: power plants, large steel plant, metalworking, machine building, construction materials production, chemical industry, electronics, parts of defense industry, etc

... as if as a free European country, none of that (and much more) would've happened. The common case study is Estonia vs Finland, two very similar countries in the 1930s, both got invaded by Russians, one remained free, the other occupied for 50 years. Despite a very similar culture, language, history and socio-economic starting position, Finland ended up as one of the most prosperous nations on the planet, while Estonia was a "1 dollar a day" shithole (along with rest of the USSR and Eastern Bloc) by 1990. After Russian geniuses were overthrown, Estonia started a meteoric climb and is on track of catching up with Finland. All these Russian "factories and industries" were nothing but a horrible stagnation that robbed the country of 50 years of proper progress. They were wasteful and polluting, produced for USSR's internal consumption and had to be scrapped because they were utterly uncompetitive on the global market.

It's been the same externally forced stagnation, followed by meteoric success everywhere where they decisively got rid of Russian domination in the 1990s (Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Hungary, etc). The greater role Russia has played in post-USSR times in a country, the worse the outcomes (Belarus, Ukraine, Moldova, etc).

This map sums it up: https://i.imgur.com/4bEf0Sr.jpeg

As does this chart: https://i.imgur.com/uDpWHNq.png (Polish GDP PPP per capita as a fraction of the US')

Even the most envied parts of the Eastern Bloc were depressingly poor by Western European standards, several laps behind the worst performers. Immense negative impact on Central and Eastern Europe is the reason why Russia and Russians are considered a cancer on humanity in this part of the world. Somehow, everything you touch turns to shit, and you can't stop sticking your fingers into where they don't belong.

Re: The only tourist in Moldova

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It is so incorrect, it is boderline idiotic urban legend. post-Soviet cities have hot water year around; same heating plants used for winter heating, are used for hot water in summer time, albeit at lower power. Also waste heat from power plants used for the same purpose.

Even if you've never had to take cold showers in the summer, I have. I'm not sure why you can't believe our experiences would differ. The only reason I mentioned the USSR at all is because when I asked in China they said they got the system from them (and south of the Yangtze, you don't even get that).

Not sure what is your point. You've mentioned USSR and it was wrong, as Soviet System has never been like that - "hot water only during the winter". Ergo, you should not have brought up USSR.

Re: The only tourist in Moldova

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Exactly my point.

Your point was "post-Soviet cities have hot water year around", and your point was wrong.

My point was that the original poster was wrong saying that Soviet and Post-soviet cities had and have hot water only during winters. This is idiocy; you know that, I know that. Right now, while I am writing, my relative is using hot water to wash her head.

What is your point?

Re: The only tourist in Moldova

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> So, which industries did European countries develop in their African colonies, for example? Racists usually bring up ports, railways and whatever resource extraction they set up in Africa as their gift to humanity. As the other poster said, that's a very common thing to say for imperialists who justify colonization. Incredibly funny that you keep doubling down on the same tropes without recognizing how they sound.…

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