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Re: Introducing Copilot+ PCs

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Post by [deleted] »

TylerE wrote: post #252
isoprophlex wrote: post #124

Their "copilot" brand is so weird and... muddled. There's the AI code assistant thing that github actually started, there's the horrible chatbot maker GUI demoware, there's AI stuff you might be able to do with your sharepoint (if only you could get hold of the right ms sales rep to take your money), there's an app that does genai things on your personal MS account... And now there's a Surface rebrand? That org chart…

Do you expect anything else from the company that introduced "Plays For Sure" branding over a wide ecosystem, only to kill the ENTIRE thing (not just the branding) less than 5 years later? (as in, all purchased content became unplayable)

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Re: Introducing Copilot+ PCs

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Post by biglyburrito »

EvanAnderson wrote: post #178
isoprophlex wrote: post #124

Their "copilot" brand is so weird and... muddled. There's the AI code assistant thing that github actually started, there's the horrible chatbot maker GUI demoware, there's AI stuff you might be able to do with your sharepoint (if only you could get hold of the right ms sales rep to take your money), there's an app that does genai things on your personal MS account... And now there's a Surface rebrand? That org chart…

> Their "copilot" brand is so weird and... muddled. Microsoft can't brand anything cleanly and unambiguously. "MSN Messenger" / "Windows Messenger" / "Windows Live Messenger" / "Microsoft Lync" "Internet Explorer" / "Windows Explorer" / "MSN Explorer" Windows 95 email client "Exchange" / email server platform "Exchange" "Outlook" / "Outlook Web Access" / "Outlook Web App" / "Outlook.com" / "new Outlook for Windows" "…

In 2013, "Team Foundation Services" was renamed to "Visual Studio Online".

In 2015, "Visual Studio Online" was renamed to "Visual Studio Team Services".

In 2018, "Visual Studio Team Services" was renamed to "Azure DevOps Services".

Re: Introducing Copilot+ PCs

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Post by bloaf »

EvanAnderson wrote: post #178
isoprophlex wrote: post #124

Their "copilot" brand is so weird and... muddled. There's the AI code assistant thing that github actually started, there's the horrible chatbot maker GUI demoware, there's AI stuff you might be able to do with your sharepoint (if only you could get hold of the right ms sales rep to take your money), there's an app that does genai things on your personal MS account... And now there's a Surface rebrand? That org chart…

> Their "copilot" brand is so weird and... muddled. Microsoft can't brand anything cleanly and unambiguously. "MSN Messenger" / "Windows Messenger" / "Windows Live Messenger" / "Microsoft Lync" "Internet Explorer" / "Windows Explorer" / "MSN Explorer" Windows 95 email client "Exchange" / email server platform "Exchange" "Outlook" / "Outlook Web Access" / "Outlook Web App" / "Outlook.com" / "new Outlook for Windows" "…

Don’t forget “Windows Live Mesh/Windows Live FolderShare/Live Mesh/Windows Live Sync/Windows Live Folders/Windows Live SkyDrive/SkyDrive/OneDrive”

To be fair, they have mostly settled on OneDrive after the lawsuit that forced the name change.

Re: Introducing Copilot+ PCs

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Post by biglyburrito »

wizzwizz4 wrote: post #163
isoprophlex wrote: post #124

Their "copilot" brand is so weird and... muddled. There's the AI code assistant thing that github actually started, there's the horrible chatbot maker GUI demoware, there's AI stuff you might be able to do with your sharepoint (if only you could get hold of the right ms sales rep to take your money), there's an app that does genai things on your personal MS account... And now there's a Surface rebrand? That org chart…

The original [4]: https://goomics.net/62/ (and its sequel: https://goomics.net/329/ ).

Never heard of this comic before... thank you for sharing!

Re: Introducing Copilot+ PCs

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Post by russdpale »

layer8 wrote: post #345
munchler wrote: post #320

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Running high-powered AI locally seems like a pretty good use case to me. Cloud-based AI, like OpenAI sells, is expensive and provides inadequate privacy. I want a truly personal computer, not a dumb client.

Running high-powered AI locally is not a use case, it’s something one has to provide use cases for.

If the chance of hallucination could be statistically guaranteed to be near 0, then it would have many more use cases, imo... but why would I have it summarize a pdf or write some complex code or something if I have to always double check everything for accuracy?

A calculator has no use case if it might be wrong.

Re: Introducing Copilot+ PCs

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Post by cromka »

orph wrote: post #278
isoprophlex wrote: post #124

Their "copilot" brand is so weird and... muddled. There's the AI code assistant thing that github actually started, there's the horrible chatbot maker GUI demoware, there's AI stuff you might be able to do with your sharepoint (if only you could get hold of the right ms sales rep to take your money), there's an app that does genai things on your personal MS account... And now there's a Surface rebrand? That org chart…

It made sense when I named GitHub Copilot, since that product was a passive addition to your regular workflow. The name was sticky enough that they've run with it, misunderstanding or ignoring that fundamental metaphor.

This is what happens when engineers borrow the concepts previously created by dedicated teams. Happens a lot with UX/UI, too.

Re: Introducing Copilot+ PCs

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Post by makeitdouble »

macintux wrote: post #297
Dalewyn wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not quite. Hidden at the very end of Microsoft's blognouncement[1] is this tidbit (emphasis mine): > We look forward to expanding through deep partnerships with Intel and AMD, starting with Lunar Lake and Strix. We will bring new Copilot+ PC experiences at a later date. So it's less Microsoft pivoting to and giving ARM a try again but rather testing the waters and distributing the risks by introducing ARM into a line…

Microsoft has no courage. They have to keep catering to every possible audience, so they’re not willing to pull the plug on x86, which means ARM will always play second fiddle.

> Microsoft has no courage

Sadly the headphone jack is definitely dead.

> They have to keep catering to every possible audience

That's not Microsoft's job at this point, they heavily invest and push the envelop where makers don't want to take the risk, but from there it's for Lenovo, Dell, HP, Asus etc. to decide what they want to market and which chip to push. The same way some of them put weight behind AMD while other went full Intel 100% of the time.

Re: Introducing Copilot+ PCs

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Post by malshe »

Somewhat OT but still related - I am using less AI in the last few weeks. I pay for ChatGPT but I barely use it. I sometimes use Perplexity but then also verify the response using Google search, which means I don't use Perplexity often.

It's certainly early but as a consumer I feel the AI hype is just that.

Re: Introducing Copilot+ PCs

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Post by hehdhdjehehegwv »

DamnYuppie wrote: post #31
hehdhdjehehegwv wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not only that, it probably saved Apple!

The iPod saved Apple, the iPhone made it the powerhouse it is now. Everything else seems like marginal impact. The new chip is nice and helps them have more control over and lower prices but as of yet doesn't seem to be an immediate game changer.

Disagree, the power series Mac’s were in the verge of not being able to run photoshop on par with windows. The last core group to keep the Mac alive was designers. If Apple had stuck with power series they wouldn’t have survived.
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