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Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

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Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

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Somehow, most people fail to see the obvious: The ongoing FAA audits at both, Spirit Aerospace and Boeing (so far it looks horrible based on initial reporting) will identify each and every single verifiable whistleblower claim anyways. So no, despite the general retaliation against whistleblowers out of princial (for the record, that alone is illegal and should be punished a lot harder and more often), Boeing as a co…

Here’s a question for you: why do we punish people who have already committed a crime? As a deterrence. This may as well be making an example of a whistleblower to signal potential future whistleblowers to stay silent.

That's the whole point. And the reason why retaliation against whistleblowers ia mostly illegal. Proving reprisal actions can be so difficult so that it amounts to retribution itself.

All the reason more to honor those few brave souls who do it, I know I propably wouldn't. And claiming this particular one was killed is absolutely not doing that.

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> there's an infinite number of alternate explanations I see only one reasonably acceptable alternate explanation. He either committed suicide or was suicided by someone at Boeing terrified about what would happen to them in jail.

Or killed by a nation state that thrives on creating conflict by amplifying two sided situations that lead to increased polarization and more instability… the problem with speculation is it’s just that speculation… I’m going to wait and see

Still waiting for Epstein...

Seriously though, I've watched way too many movies where there is a staged suicide to not be biased against a story like this.

There is no way we'll ever know what happened unless there is a trial with a lot of non circumstantial evidence presented.

Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

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The emotional strain of being a whistleblower and having your colleagues now see you as the enemy is not something I’ve read about, but it must take a toll. A whistleblower, almost by definition, is a hero to strangers and a villain to those they know and work with. Or he was simply executed like in many corporate espionage movies.

The emotional strain of being a whistleblower and having your colleagues now see you as the enemy

This is a problem. Would you really see a whistleblower as your enemy? Is your identity so intertwined with your job that you take legal action against your employers so personally? Do you think your employer has that much loyalty to you? Boeing just had layoffs in December. I'm sure the issues this guy was uncovering played a part in that. We should all hold our bosses accountable. If they mess up, it's going to be bad for us.

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I would rather say democracy brings people into positions of power who are experts in pretending to do the right thing. But maybe I am to skeptical.

No, your skepticism is warranted. Democracy tries to select for people doing the right thing, but of course people interested in power will try to game the system by pretending to do the right thing.

> people interested in power will try to game the system

There need to be heavy consequences. You used to be ostracized, at least for some short period of time and in some scenarios, for selfish behaviour. Now, it seems like we approve of and even encourage douchebags because everyone's gotta get theirs.

Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

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I always check whether my flight is on a Boeing and tend to avoid them—better safe than sorry! Fortunately, in Europe, most carriers primarily use Airbus, which simplifies things. Essentially, it boils down to avoiding Ryanair, and there are plenty of other good reasons for avoiding Ryanair.

My favorite thing to avoid Ryanair is, despit being most used in Europe, they never had a single deadly crash. not even once. So it's great reason to avoid actually. too safe? I prefer less safe airlines like germanwings? or maybe any other with actual crash history. Also some leg room is more important than my safety. you know?

Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

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> there's an infinite number of alternate explanations I see only one reasonably acceptable alternate explanation. He either committed suicide or was suicided by someone at Boeing terrified about what would happen to them in jail.

Or killed by a nation state that thrives on creating conflict by amplifying two sided situations that lead to increased polarization and more instability… the problem with speculation is it’s just that speculation… I’m going to wait and see

How would a nation state "thrive" on assassinating this person?

May I ask if you live in the U.S.? I have the impression that a lot of people there think that other nations revolve around destroying the U.S.

Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

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Or killed by a nation state that thrives on creating conflict by amplifying two sided situations that lead to increased polarization and more instability… the problem with speculation is it’s just that speculation… I’m going to wait and see

“I’m not going to speculate but here is the most wild and unfounded bit of speculation I can think of…”

"That's the problem with speculation (...)", which is: it's used to discredit the most plausible explanations.
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