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The bomb threat wasn't even related to Defcon, though. I heard it both from Dark Tangent and several high level Goons.
what was it related to? I thought someone reported a suspicious bag in the venue.
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>But canceling an already scheduled event because of low revenue per guest doesn't seem very likely to me? Not to be TOO snarky, but given how quickly corporate cancels employee labor despite rising revenue, it would not surprise me for other corporate to also cancel "low paying customers" for "high paying customers". Loyalty is beyond dead so cancelling a contract is just a cost of business if they feel the alternat…
Not to be TOO snarky, but given how quickly corporate cancels employee labor despite rising revenue, it would not surprise me for other corporate to also cancel "low paying customers" for "high paying customers". Loyalty is beyond dead so cancelling a contract is just a cost of business if they feel the alternative gives more money. If they canceled a year or so before the con, I could see that. But to cancel seven m…
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Eh, I’m a programmer and I go to vegas with other programmers fairly regularly. We know enough math to know the expected cost per entertainment•hour is comparable to many other pass-times. But even so we’re actually all net-positive on the city, thanks to a couple “lucky” craps runs.
Came to make the same comment. Vegas is a fun place. We spend some money and get some fun just like anything else. And same. A couple of roulette results has us “positive”.
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Ahh I see. This way it makes a lot more sense, thanks for the explanation :) I go to a lot of European hacker parties/camps and I can certainly recognise the mindset you mention (and I identify with that mindset as well even though I work in a corporate job). For this reason Las Vegas made no sense to me but in light of your comment it does now. And yeah getting ridiculously drunk is definitely part of the experience…
>And yeah getting ridiculously drunk is definitely part of the experience :D Since we are talking about stuff that we don't think should be associated with hacking this is my own pet peeve. What does "getting drunk" have to do with hacking? And why is it always "absolutely smashed" or "ridiculously drunk". I get that most hacker types are shy introverts and couple drinks makes things more fun and socially fluid, but…
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Not everything is about money or the bottom line. Sometimes it's about politics. Vegas takes a loss on so many things. Nevada has grown more and more corporate over the years. This move doesn't surprise me at all.
> Sometimes it's about politics. > Nevada has grown more and more corporate over the years. You make it sound like it's entirely about money and the bottom line. I have a hard time believing gaming doesn't provide _huge_ contributions to favorable politicians. I feel like you've got something to say, and maybe something really interesting. But what you've got if awfully vague. If you've got the time or inclination, I…
Financially the strips have massive amounts of money flowing into it from every angle. Construction is booming and housing cannot keep up with the demand. If you view LV from the surface then it seems like the economy is trashed - lower travel rates, millennials are not into gaming as much, and the virtualization of gaming is competing. But the reality is business for "living" is doing better than ever before.
Because recent politics has changed ideologies with modern corporations several things have changed. For example skids were never part of LV ever, but that has changed in the last 10 years directly because of these ideologies. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/u-s-first-public-needle-vending...
Do you think these same Corporations look fondly upon DEFCON? They would push it out eventually as it's not safe-hacking.
I suspect Caesar's dropped DEF CON because the DEF CON attendees likely have a fairly low "avg revenue per attendee" yield because fewer of them gamble compared to the avg Vegas conference attendee. They also probably spend less on high-end restaurant dining and bar drinking inside the hotel. Since the pandemic Vegas has had a pretty strong resurgence in general and this may be a sign that Caesar's is doing well enou…