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Re: ChatGPT for Teams

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Note that "no training on your data" is only for Team and Enterprise: https://openai.com/chatgpt/pricing

You can make a privacy request for OpenAI to not train on your data here: https://privacy.openai.com/ Alternatively, you could also use your own UI/API token (API calls aren't trained on). Chatbot UI just got a major update released and has nice things like folders, and chat search: https://github.com/mckaywrigley/chatbot-ui

It should be opt out by default: not opt in.

Re: ChatGPT for Teams

#402

A notable feature here is "no training on your business data or conversations" which really shouldn't have to be a feature. (requests using the ChatGPT API already aren't trained upon)

Google trains on all your searches. Why is OpenAI held to a higher standard?

Re: ChatGPT for Teams

#403

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At Kagi we plan to offer this for $20/mo and 6 family members included. You get both paid search (much better than openai bing) + AI (gpt-3.5-turbo/claude-instant). If you need gpt-4 it will be an optional $15/mo upgrade per family member.

This is not a comment on the Kagi service, but more a comment on transitions in general. I have tried Kagi and I think it's great. I really want to use Kagi. I want to support Kagi. I have a mental stickynote that says 'start using Kagi on everything'. Every time I sit down to do some tasks it just falls to the bottom of the to-do pile because I feel like there's so many devices I now need to go through and update. G…

I ran into this same issue. Finally took until Christmas break to have the mental space available. Switched to Firefox + Kagi, and very happy that I did.

Re: ChatGPT for Teams

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post #385

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can make a privacy request for OpenAI to not train on your data here: https://privacy.openai.com/ Alternatively, you could also use your own UI/API token (API calls aren't trained on). Chatbot UI just got a major update released and has nice things like folders, and chat search: https://github.com/mckaywrigley/chatbot-ui

It should be opt out by default: not opt in.

Until people decide to boycott services where privacy is opt-in, nothing will change.

Re: ChatGPT for Teams

#405
post #402

A notable feature here is "no training on your business data or conversations" which really shouldn't have to be a feature. (requests using the ChatGPT API already aren't trained upon)

Google trains on all your searches. Why is OpenAI held to a higher standard?

OpenAI's product might just print out the info you put in verbatim to another user if asked politely

Re: ChatGPT for Teams

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> Quite the opposite actually. My intent is to shed light on the fact that sharing information with OpenAI is not private. And you should not do that with information that you wouldn't even share with people you trust. I'm not OP, but I think you're missing the point. Privacy and trust isn't really a 1D gradient, it's probably planar or even spatial if anything. Personally I'd be more willing to trust OpenAI with cer…

> Same reason behind why someone may be willing to post a relationship situation to r/relationship_advice and yet not talk about the same thing with family and friends. I ask that you consider the people who use Reddit and the people who run Reddit independently. The people who use Reddit are not in a position of power over someone who asks for advice. The people who run Reddit on the other hand, are in a position of…

You're assuming power comes with an assumed guarantee of use. OpenAI has vast amounts of power with the data they're collecting, but the likelihood of OpenAI using it against any individual is small enough that an individual could consider it to be outside their threat model (I'm speaking using security language, but I doubt most people go so far as to threat model these interactions; it's mostly intuitive at this point).

Your family has limited power in the grand scheme of things, but the likelihood that they may leverage what power you give them over you is much higher.

The IRS has vast power and is likely to use it against you, hence why tax fraud is usually a bad idea.

Hence "planar" rather than linear.

Re: ChatGPT for Teams

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> If you don't want your family to know something, you shouldn't tell it to OpenAI either. Yeah, I think this is an over reduction of personal privacy models, but can you tell me why you believe this?

The reason you wouldn't say something to someone is because you are afraid of the power that you give people along with that knowledge. Your family is in a a position of power, which is why it can be scary to share information with them. People at OpenAI are also at a position of power, but people who use their services seem to forget that, since they're talking to them through a computer that automatically responds.

Converging threads here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38956734

tldr: power (or if you want, impact) is the linear dimension, likelihood adds a second dimension to the plane of trust.

Re: ChatGPT for Teams

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Here's a glossary to understand this post: - mixtral-8x7 or 8x7: Open source model by Mistral AI. - Dolphin: An uncensored version of the mistral model - 3.5-turbo: GPT-3.5 Turbo, the cheapest API from OpenAI - 4-series preview OR "4.5 preview": GPT-4 Turbo, the most capable API from OpenAI - mistral-medium: A new model by Mistral AI that they are only serving through AI. It's in private beta and there's a waiting li…

I asked ChatGPT to rewrite the original post using your glossary, which worked well: I've set up my system to use several AI models: the open-source Mixtral-8x7, Dolphin (an uncensored version of Mixtral), GPT-3.5 Turbo (a cost-effective option from OpenAI), and the latest GPT-4 Turbo from OpenAI. I can easily compare their performances in Emacs. Lately, I've noticed that GPT-4 Turbo is starting to outperform Mixtral…

Thank you! Amazing how difficult it is to keep up with all of the new jargon given how fast it's evolved. I had no idea that mistral-medium was so great.

Re: ChatGPT for Teams

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No you can't, because you actually don't know which model is which when you vote.

Do only the initial votes count? Because after I made an initial choice I was then put in a session where I saw the name of both of the AI. I made subsequent votes in that session where I could see their names.

https://github.com/lm-sys/FastChat/issues/1210

Re: ChatGPT for Teams

#410

I want ChatGPT for Family. The free version gets a lot of use around here but the most powerful feature is the ability to search the web, which is only available to paid users. I pay $20/month for myself and I’d happily pay a bit more for the whole family, but not $20/month per person - it adds up. Family members end up asking to borrow my phone a lot to use it. Give me a 3-4 person plan that costs $30-$40/month. You…

At Kagi we plan to offer this for $20/mo and 6 family members included. You get both paid search (much better than openai bing) + AI (gpt-3.5-turbo/claude-instant). If you need gpt-4 it will be an optional $15/mo upgrade per family member.

Sounds great. Will that plan also have access to the Search API which is currently restricted to Teams plans?
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