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Re: Voyager 1 stops communicating with Earth

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Post by bmitc »

leptons wrote: post #376
bmitc wrote: post #355

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You're assuming the spacecraft isn't receiving the commands. I didn't say that. The article even mentions that they feel the spacecraft is receiving and processing the commands. There's just no response. The article title and intro are correct. For all intents and purposes, the spacecraft has stopped communicating. Broke down, used in the intro, is better than stopped. Discussing this is pedantic and pointless, whi…

>The article even mentions that they feel the spacecraft is receiving and processing the commands. There's just no response. That is by definition "one way communication". You're saying it's not communication, but it absolutely is. I'm not sure why you can't accept that.

Jesus christ. I'm not not accepting that.

So just to end this, what would you and the others like the title to be given the article is perfectly clear and with a title that is substantively different? So we don't have to non-discuss this anymore.

Re: Voyager 1 stops communicating with Earth

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Post by shiroiuma »

smudgy wrote: post #135

If NASA can't contact it again and it has bravely gone into the great darkness alone with a piece of us, let's hope it's eventually found by a race capable of understanding the fragment of memory it carries. If you're lost V'ger, safe travels.

>let's hope it's eventually found by a race capable of understanding the fragment of memory it carries.

Star Trek: The Motion Picture showed the danger posed by your wish.

Re: Voyager 1 stops communicating with Earth

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Post by jhoechtl »

petters wrote: post #389
hunter2_ wrote: post #352

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The notion that encoding/transmitting could be simpler than decoding/receiving is interesting. It reminds me of the way optical drives for many years could write at, say, 48x but read at 8x, such that the majority of time spent was the verification step (if enabled) rather than the burn step. Just speculating, I assume it's because of things like error correction, filtering out noise/degradation. Producing the extra…

Interesting. That is not how I remember optical speeds.

It is wrong

Re: Voyager 1 stops communicating with Earth

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Post by swagempire »

mardifoufs wrote: post #216
WalterBright wrote: post #200

Criminy. Why aren't we launching more of these probes? With Musk's cheap rockets, we could launch a fleet of them.

I think launching stuff with nuclear RTGs would probably be met with red tape :(. Even if they are basically impossible to destroy even with a failed launch. I'm sure it will happen again but sadly not as fast or as often as I wish we would.

Almost everything uses RTGs now if it's going to be far from the sun (like past mars).

Re: Voyager 1 stops communicating with Earth

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Post by opyate »

ddingus wrote: post #325
gzer0 wrote: post #282

One of my favorite facts ever is that Voyager 1 contains something called the Voyager Golden Record [1]. It has the following quote written: This is a present from a small, distant world, a token of our sounds, our science, our images, our music, our thoughts and our feelings. We are attempting to survive our time so we may live into yours. I get chills everytime I think about this. I hope we can recover from this ev…

I like the simple, humble message. My own take is similar. Truth is, we are young, we shit where we eat, we spend considerable resources killing one another, we do not take good care of our own, and we reproduce like rabbits. For all we know there is a signpost some parsecs out there that reads: Do not yet approach. These things have not yet become ready for what contact could likely mean. We must pass tests to come.…

I had a dream a few days ago: our overlords cancelled the experiment (us), nah it's not working, but here's a new specimen with the "tribal" bit switched off. We suspect it might go better this time.

The Futurama meme "I don't want to live on this planet any more" comes to mind way too often these days...

Re: Voyager 1 stops communicating with Earth

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Post by matwood »

jacquesm wrote: post #290
dotnet00 wrote: post #279

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't see where you're getting this from? It's so blatant that things are only improving, the US is running so many high profile missions, SpaceX alone has launched almost 100 times this year, Starship testing is proceeding well, we're reasonably on track for a long term human presence on the Moon, we're gradually preparing for Mars, China is managing to maintain its own space station, India is closing in on its ow…

What I'm getting this from? Reading the news for the last 40 years or so. Watching the new generation and their education levels. Seeing how science is now 'the enemy' rather than the future. > SpaceX alone has launched almost 100 times this year, Starship testing is proceeding well, we're reasonably on track for a long term human presence on the Moon, we're gradually preparing for Mars, China is managing to maintain…

> 1977: peak humanity

I think the LGBTQ and minority communities would like to have a word. Don't get sucked into the golden age fallacy.

Re: Voyager 1 stops communicating with Earth

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Post by jacquesm »

matwood wrote: post #409
jacquesm wrote: post #290

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What I'm getting this from? Reading the news for the last 40 years or so. Watching the new generation and their education levels. Seeing how science is now 'the enemy' rather than the future. > SpaceX alone has launched almost 100 times this year, Starship testing is proceeding well, we're reasonably on track for a long term human presence on the Moon, we're gradually preparing for Mars, China is managing to maintain…

> 1977: peak humanity I think the LGBTQ and minority communities would like to have a word. Don't get sucked into the golden age fallacy.

I thought the context was science, subject space.
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