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Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

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Re: Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

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Or, when you fire people, have a clear reason for it. Not being "consistently candid" is not that.

You want companies to post the reasons for every firing on Twitter?

No, but at least tell the reasons to the CEO you replaced him with. Even Shear was kept in dark and was planning to leave OpenAI.

Re: Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

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Why would Sam Altman be held as someone irreplaceable....the dude seems like a smart guy but c'mon he is not Jobs or Gates. I remember first time hearing him when he interviewed Zuck about Facebook and entrepreneurship (when he worked for Y Combinator). Now we talk about him as the next Gates or Jobs. I think this was one big marketing stunt from OpenAI, now the whole software and business community talks about them. Big boost in popularity and big downfall for Google when we talk about competing in AI. Sam's biggest mistake was that Worldcoin privacy nightmare but idk what was he thinking about, maybe it was noble idk.

Re: Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

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It's oh so weird the article does not mention any of these though... - https://twitter.com/phuckfilosophy/status/163570439893983232... (SA's sister - also have a look at her recent posts) - Also: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/QDczBduZorG4dxZiW/sam-altman... (utterly distressing) - https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1727096607752282485 (check the comment with snapshots of the letter - "strangely" that Gist was dele…

that can't be true- why would sam altman and the rest of their family deny annie altman's inheritance? it's not like they need the money themselves either this annie character is making stuff up, or the whole rest of her family are some kind of comic book villains

> why would sam altman and the rest of their family deny annie altman's inheritance? [...] either this annie character is making stuff up, or the whole rest of her family are some kind of comic book villains

She's done something to alienate herself from the family. Usual reason is drugs, but given that she's publicly braying about being molested I'd bet that she's told similar stories about other family members, internally, prior to this. (ed: she also made the same allegations against her other brother too. Damn I'm good.)

Look at the number of people ascribing manipulative behavior to Sammy. This sort of thing runs in families.

Or look at the verbiage of the allegation itself:

> I’m not four years old with a 13 year old “brother” climbing into my bed non-consensually anymore. (You’re welcome for helping you figure out your sexuality.) I’ve finally accepted that you’ve always been and always will be more scared of me than I’ve been of you.

Nowhere in there does she actually say he did anything more than get in bed with her. She just implies it, and our minds are filling in the rest, giving her plausible deniability against making such a claim. It's fuckary.

(edit2) Even better, from https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/QDczBduZorG4dxZiW/sam-altman...:

> "Annie had (and still was having?) extremely intense, nearly all-day PTSD flashbacks of the sexual assault she experienced in her childhood from Sam Altman, plus other forms of assault from all members of her nuclear family (except her Dad, I think.)"

Everyone wants a piece of Little Annie Altman, it seems. Histrionic personality disorder (and PTSD!) is treated with...Zoloft, dispensing of which was also considered "abuse" in her claims.

> Our Dad’s ashes being turned into diamonds (not his wishes) and that being offered to me instead of money for rent and groceries and physical therapy says more about me?

lol. The Altmans know how to push the buttons of someone with a spending problem.

Re: Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

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From Paul Graham's Twitter, three days ago: "No one in the world is better than Sam at dealing with this kind of situation." Jessica Livingston retweet: "The reason I was a founding donor to OpenAI in 2015 was not because I was interested in AI, but because I believed in Sam. So I hope the board can get its act together and bring Sam and Greg back." Also from a sibling comment: https://twitter.com/search?q=from:paulg…

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Re: Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

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This the main reason I don't trust people who are in the business of "selling". On one hand, it's nice being around those kinds of people. On the other hand, it's hard to take any of the nice things they say seriously. Most of them say nice things to be likeable, not because they actually mean or will do what they say. I've learned to pay close attention to what salesmen do, rather than what is said. The actual truth…

>I've learned to pay close attention to what salesmen do, rather than what is said. Yes this is always a wise thing to do. >Most of them say nice things to be likeable, not because they actually mean or will do what they say. I disagree with this take. I mean I’m sure there’s snakes out there. What I see in life though, is that most people don’t say enough nice things, even things they genuinely feel. They hold back…

People could afford to say more nice things. Perhaps it would even devalue the false flattery used by salespeople to their advantage.

OTOH the parent comment's take seems reasonable. Calling your dad and saying "I love you" because you want to be written into the will is sort of the level we're dealing with here.

Re: Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

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post #375

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When you take a shot at someone influential and miss, falling on your own sword is a kinder fate than what will happen when they turn your direction.

Did he miss? Sam was fired.

This subthread isn't about the article; we're on a tangent about OpenAI.

He was fired [at] and didn't die. Now he's back, and looking for revenge.

Re: Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

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Step 1: Dazzle an influential person Step 2: Persuade them to hitch their reputation to you Step 3: Do whatever you want with minimal repercussions Follow these 3 steps and influential people will actively fight on your behalf, against their own best interests, to avoid embarrassing themselves and diminishing their reputations. Use each influential person as a stepping stone to an even more influential person and rep…

Or, when you fire people, have a clear reason for it. Not being "consistently candid" is not that.

lying of any type is always grounds for termination. "consistently candid" is just a more PC phrase for lying.

Re: Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

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post #367

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> CEOs are professional communicators who have reached the highest level of the craft That's kind of silly, isn't it? Altman is a college dropout who has barely ever worked and somehow fell upward into CEO positions very quickly. His level of communication in talks and interviews is terrible, so I am genuinely confused where all this mystique comes from. He sounds like a college student being asked and talking about…

Watch him at Dev Day.

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Re: Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

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Yeah, the craziest thing for me to come out of this was how everyone in HN just assumed he was "innocent". Poor poor sam altman, he's a victim. He comes across as a sleazebag to me.

I subscribe to the HN RSS feed, which shows flagged items since they're published on the feed before they're flagged. The craziest thing that stands out to me is how so many negative stories on Sam Altman end up being flagged, even though they are just as legit as the positive ones. I'm almost 100% certain that HN is highly manipulated for this story. For no other topic have I seen so many flagged stories, and all of…

Some of the rss feed items are being straight up removed rather than just the typical flagged/dead that you normally see - none of them have looked extremely legit to me though.

Re: Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or, when you fire people, have a clear reason for it. Not being "consistently candid" is not that.

You want companies to post the reasons for every firing on Twitter?

I’m ambivalent about it in general, but curious in this case specifically.
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