This feels like a sneaky way for Microsoft to absorb the for-profit subsidiary and kneecap (or destroy) the nonprofit without any money changing hands or involvement from those pesky regulators.
It's not sneaky.
OpenAI staff threaten to quit unless board resigns
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#402It always seemed like Microsoft was behind this, biggest tell was how comfortable MS was at having their entire AI future depend on a company where they don't really have full rights to.
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#403Earlier quoted context omitted.
They will never discover AGI with this approach because 1) they are brute forcing the results and 2) none of this is actually science.
Can you explain for us not up to date with AI developments?
Search YouTube for videos where Chomsky talks about AI. Current approaches to AI do not even attempt to understand cognition.
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#404Well I give up. I think everyone is a "loser" in the current situation. With Ilya signing this I have literally no clue what to believe anymore. I was willing to give the board the benefit of the doubt since I figured non-profit > profit in terms of standing on principal but this timeline is so screwy I'm done. Ilya votes for and stands behind decision to remove Altman, Altman goes to MS, other employees want him bac…
It's almost like a ChatGPT hallucination. Where will this all go next? It seems like HN is melting down.
Imagine if this whole fiasco was actually a demo of how powerful their capabilities are now. Even by normal large organization standards, the behavior exhibited by their board is very irrational. Perhaps they haven't yet built the "consult with legal team" integration :)
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#405Years from now we will look back to today as the watershed moment when ai went from technology capable of empowering humanity, to being another chain forged by big investors to enslave us for the profits of very few ppl.
The investors (Microsoft and the Saudi’s) stepped in and gave a clear message: this technology has to be developed and used only in ways that will be profitable for them.
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#406@dang please update it to 505.
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#407If they join Sam Altman and Greg Brockman at Microsoft they will not need to start from scratch because Microsoft has full rights [1] to ChatGPT IP. They can just fork ChatGPT. Also keep in mind that Microsoft hasn't actually given OpenAI $13 Billion because much of that is in the form of Azure credits. So this could end up being the cheapest acquisition for Microsoft: They get a $90 Billion company for peanuts. [1]…
> Microsoft hasn't actually given OpenAI $13 Billion because much of that is in the form of Azure credits To be clear, these are still an asset OpenAI holds. It should at least let them continue doing research for a few years.
they're GPUs right? Time to mine some niche cryptos to cash out the azure credits..
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#408Earlier quoted context omitted.
So essentially, OpenAI is a sinking ship as long as the board members go ahead with their new CEO and Sam, Greg are not returning. Microsoft can absorb all the employees and switch them into the new AI subsidiary which basically is an acqui-hire without buying out everyone else's shares and making a new DeepMind / OpenAI research division inside of the company. So all along it was a long winded side-step into having…
And sue for the assets of OpenAI on account of the damage the board did to their stock... and end up with all of the IP.
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#410Well, great to see that the potentially dangerous future of AGI is in good hands.
They will never discover AGI with this approach because 1) they are brute forcing the results and 2) none of this is actually science.
1) It may be possible to brute-force a model into something that sufficiently resembles AGI for most use-cases (at least well enough to merit concern about who controls it)
2) Deep learning has never been terribly scientific, but here we are.