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Emmett Shear becomes interim OpenAI CEO as Altman talks break down

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> Pretty much every researcher I know at OpenAI who are on twitter Selection bias?

Not if it's a big sample set. There's a guy on twitter who make a list with every OpenAI researcher he could find on twitter and almost all of them did react to Sams tweet in a supportive way.

They can support Sam, but still stay in the company.

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> Pretty much every researcher I know at OpenAI who are on twitter Selection bias?

Which would mean that he specifically selected who to follow due to their closeness to / alignment with Sam, pre-ousting? How would he do that?

Big question!

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I still cannot process what’s happened to one of the most prominent and hyped companies of the past year in just one weekend. If it’s true that Altman won’t return to OpenAI (or alternatively: that the current board won’t step down) then where does that leave OpenAI? Microsoft can’t be happy, as evidenced by reporting that Nadella was acting as mediator to bring him back. Does OpenAI survive this? Will be super inter…

The big question in my mind is the reported threat from MSFT to withhold cloud credits (i.e. the actual currency of their $10B investment). Is this true? And are they going to follow through? I don't buy for a second that enough employees will walk to sink the company (though it could be very be disruptive). But for OpenAI, losing a big chunk of their compute could mean they are unable to support their userbase and t…

MS is not going to randomly withhold cloud credits, as OpenAI is going to sue them for billions of damages.

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Someone help me understand OpenAI’s situation. If Sutskever remains at the company, OpenAi can continue to improve its ChatGPT models and produce model 5.0? What leverage does Microsoft does have over OpenAi? Can Microsoft shut off access to their hardware to support Altman? Why would Microsoft want this?

the biggest leverage is the billions in compute that Microsoft holds over OpenAI. Without this compute they can't run most of the experiments to get number five before others, who are very close, especially Anthropic.

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Don't forget Tasha McCauley's husband, Joseph Gordon Levitt, has been vocally anti-AI during the SAG-AFTRA strike, an event for which AI was a huge point of contention. It's a poisoned board.

Their whole board is a joke The smartest white hot startup on the planet has the smallest board and most inexperienced How did that even happen on Sam’s watch? My take: he always thought Ilya would have his back with Greg and the 3 overrule ruled anybody , so they kept it small Bad idea

OpenAI was not founded to be a white hot startup: https://archive.is/Vqjpr

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Ah yes you're either a doomer or e/acc. Pick an extreme. Everything must be polarized.

There's a character in HPMOR named after the new CEO. (That's the religious text of the anti-AI cult that founded OpenAI. It's in the form of a very long Harry Potter fanfic.)

Is Chat GPT writing this whole dialogue?

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So long Mira Murati. That's the second CEO OpenAI has ousted in one week. https://openai.com/blog/openai-announces-leadership-transiti...

Her move makes even less sense than what the board did. The board told her the day before that they're firing Sam, so she obviously accepted it. But, one day later she caves and sides with Sam (that's what the heart tweet means)? That's weak leadership and resolve.

Well if she talked to Sam and he showed her hypothetical 5 Billion in commitment and offered 1% in "SamAI" ...

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I'd say it sounds like they want to go faster with research and slower with commercializing the outputs of the research.

Accelerating research on increasing reasoning / intelligence capabilities of AI? That is opposite of what Emmett seemed to advocate recently, so it would be strange to pick him as the CEO if they really wanted to accelerate that.

Those are not the only things to research, but I wouldn't assume that capability-base research would stop. I mean, they want to create AI to perform AI alignment, so their road map includes capability research.

The for-profit bender that OpenAI was on appears to have been more of the issue. It's one thing to create greater capabilities for enhancing the rate of research, and another rushing those capabilities to market.

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> "[Artificial General Intelligence] in a very narrow domain ." Which is it?

Read the paper linked above, and if you don't agree that's okay. There are many who don't.

Has anyone written a response to this paper? Their main gist is to try to define AGI empirically using only what is measurable.

Re: Emmett Shear becomes interim OpenAI CEO as Altman talks break down

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For a change, maybe it'd be a good idea to get a CEO who at least has faint idea about how ML works on a technical level? Would you like a company that builds rockets to be led by some salesman who doesn't understand basic Physics? Probably not. You don't need to be Hinton or Schmidhuber, but come on, who thinks it's a good idea to have these typical "Silicon Valley VC CEOs" lead an AI company?

The trick is that execs do have unusually good insight into how their tech works, because they can ask their reports to explain it.

Btw, I think it's funny how much credit Hinton gets for AI. His contribution is pretty much just keeping some grad students on the problem.

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