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Ethernet Is Still Going Strong After 50 Years

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Post by ethbr1 »

lazide wrote: post #395
ethbr1 wrote: post #342

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Almost all homeowners can't pay more than commercial jobs (for the same amount of billable work). Ergo, if they can, tradespeople take commercial jobs. Which leaves residential tradesperson as something of a lemon market. (And I wouldn't want to put up with one-off job, haggling about payment, if I had commercial options)

Post COVID burnout (or maybe it’s cognitive dissonance issues?) seems to be a thing too. Just finding a contractor or business owner able to think clearly is reaching near impossibility. Like on even the most basic things. It’s quite concerning.

I'd question the correlation to COVID on that one.

The breakdown of the apprentice model ~20 years ago and now-due generational consequences of that change seems more to blame.

Community expertise evaporated with retirement of folks who have been doing it 30+ years.

And without anyone receiving it... many of the folks out there are "let me look up plans at Home Depot before doing the job" types.

Re: Ethernet Is Still Going Strong After 50 Years

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Post by lazide »

ethbr1 wrote: post #401
lazide wrote: post #395

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Post COVID burnout (or maybe it’s cognitive dissonance issues?) seems to be a thing too. Just finding a contractor or business owner able to think clearly is reaching near impossibility. Like on even the most basic things. It’s quite concerning.

I'd question the correlation to COVID on that one. The breakdown of the apprentice model ~20 years ago and now-due generational consequences of that change seems more to blame. Community expertise evaporated with retirement of folks who have been doing it 30+ years. And without anyone receiving it... many of the folks out there are "let me look up plans at Home Depot before doing the job" types.

It correlated exactly with Covid. And the folks I’m talking about are the same folks pre-covid. They didn’t retire, they’ve lost their minds, very noticeably increasing in particular over the last 3 years.

This fall is part of a steady escalation.

It appears to be heavily correlated with the insane propaganda floating around too.

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Post by PinguTS »

numlock86 wrote: post #400
PinguTS wrote: post #114

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You never visited Germany, aren't you?

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I'm in the Nuremberg area. We have no fibre in downtown Nuremberg for the company in an old building.

I live in a very small town in the outskirts, we will have no fibre for next years. Only the main town will get fibre the next few years.

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Post by numlock86 »

PinguTS wrote: post #403
numlock86 wrote: post #400

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I'm in the Nuremberg area. We have no fibre in downtown Nuremberg for the company in an old building. I live in a very small town in the outskirts, we will have no fibre for next years. Only the main town will get fibre the next few years.

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Post by Karrot_Kream »

luckydude wrote: post #365

It might not have happened if it wasn't for me and avb. I need to write that up but the short story is that FDDI was the path to 100mbit, I wanted 100Mbit ethernet, the sun hardware engineers thought I wanted to signal over copper the same way that 10mbit did. I didn't care about that, I cared about what someone in this thread said, it's amazing that you can plug a 10Mbit hub in and have it work with 100mbit, Gbit, e…

Yes! Please do!

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Post by hamburglar »

ethbr1 wrote: post #201
hamburglar wrote: post #194

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And on the plywood, go buy a 4x8 foot sheet and cut it into 4 4x2 foot sheets. These are easy to carry into your attic one or two at a time and you can lay them down as “tiles” that span 4 16in joists. Easy to just lay them down (screwed to the joists) to where you need to get and also continue extending your tiles later if you want to either get further or complete your “floor” for storage purposes. And you can stil…

If you ask nicely and go at a not-busy time, larger home improvement stores will generally cut them for you there.

Many also just offer this as a service for like $.50 or $1 per cut. Very worth it if you don’t have a vehicle that can transport a full sheet.

Re: Ethernet Is Still Going Strong After 50 Years

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Post by WillAdams »

jasonjayr wrote: post #76
WillAdams wrote: post #8

It still kills me that this name was used for a wired, rather than a wireless setup.

> It reflected a comment Thacker had made early on, that “coaxial cable is nothing but captive ether,” PARC researcher Alan Kay recalled. From the article on the origin of the name.

Yes, but ethernet does not does not communicate this in such a way that it communicates that this is a cabled system, nor is there is a matching phrasing for one which doesn't need cables.
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