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Search "M3 Pro" on Twitter and you'll see some decent comparisons.
you made the assertion so you provide the link, I am not doing this do your own research BS
M3 Macs: there's more to performance than counting cores
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Re: M3 Macs: there's more to performance than counting cores
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Can you name or link any specific hardware or software you're using? Last time I looked into how to run 2 monitors on my M1 Air I gave up after seeing $400 docks that seemed to have performance issues for some people.
I was using a secondhand Dell D6000, hoping to connect one 4k monitor natively (dp alt mode) and the rest via DisplayLink. That didnt work, now I’m using cheap docks I bought for ~€50 secondhand from a company called i-Tec (have one at home and one at work). The way I have it set up: the i-tec dock is connected to a regular USB-C hub (from Ugreen). The USB-C hub is also connected to a 4k monitor. This way I connect 1…
Since I also don't get notified of replies I've been checking back on this comment in hopes that someone had a clever solution like yours. Thanks!
Re: M3 Macs: there's more to performance than counting cores
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> Apple is fine with not using software licensed under the GPL, when it conflicts with other company principles. Apple can be fine with whatever they want and choose whatever principles they want. Doesn't mean it leads to good software or that I need to like it.
Right, but you’re not important in this context. - Apple is shipping stuff out to customers. - Whatever is shipped has to satisfy corporate policy. - The GPLv3 does not do so. That’s what matters. The only way what you care about has any impact on the above is if there is a meaningful impact for Apple for following the policy, and Apple suffering some sort of loss (be it monetary, PR, legal etc). Thus far, the non-pr…
Re: M3 Macs: there's more to performance than counting cores
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You work at FAANG and you can run your entire stack on MacOS? Which FAANG? Or you mean, you work at FAANG and you can run your web application which is 0.01% of the stack on your mac? > they do not even focus on desktop software and are mostly web companies and the tooling is all backend where SWE machines do not do any heavy lifting. The web frontend/ui is a relatively small portion of the development that goes on a…
The complex backend code isn’t going to work on your little laptop either. This is a stupid position to take, because people care more about whether they can spin up a development environment, not run all the code that goes to production.
Of course it will if it's a linux laptop. Companies even give exceptions for linux laptops for exactly this reason.
> This is a stupid position to take, because people care more about whether they can spin up a development environment, not run all the code that goes to production.
You think being able to run the code you're working on is not a requirement for a good development environment? Or you think nobody writes this code, it just magically appears in production when you deploy your html page? Lmao.
Re: M3 Macs: there's more to performance than counting cores
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You're completely wrong. I worked at Amazon (AWS) for years, yes developers generally use macs, but they generally cannot run their entire stacks on mac. Most of the actual software people work on is run on remote linux (AL2) ec2 instances after syncing the code from mac. Running the entire AWS stack on macos is literally impossible at this point because major pieces aren't even built for macos (and can't be without…
No one is going to run the entire AWS stack on their Mac when it’s targeting Linux. Amazon “suppprting” Macs mean outside developer support like AWS CLI, CDK, SAM, Amazon Chime, etc. Of course we all spun up Isengard accounts when we needed a lot of CPU horsepower or to run some dependencies instead of running something locally. Why wouldn’t you? You worked at the only company that never had to worry about a large AW…
You literally just claimed everyone at Amazon uses macs for development and runs their code on their macs. This is not the case for the vast majority of code written at Amazon.
> Amazon “suppprting” Macs mean outside developer support like AWS CLI, CDK, SAM, Amazon Chime, etc.
Nobody said anything about 'amazon "supporting" macs' and what that means except you, just now, when you moved the goalpost.
> Of course we all spun up Isengard accounts when we needed a lot of CPU horsepower or to run some dependencies instead of running something locally.
What? Using remote development environments/ec2 boxes is literally the default at AWS and it has nothing to do with 'CPU horsepower'. Most of the ec2 instances used for development are far less powerful than a macbook pro.
Re: M3 Macs: there's more to performance than counting cores
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I have done dual external monitor setup for years on Intel and AMD laptops without any issues. The standard setup at my company is a ThinkPad connected to dual 27" monitor. My company has thousand of employees. (Mac setup is also available for those who requests.) Many many companies offer a similar setup for employees. Maybe you need a reality check first.
> Maybe you need a reality check first. Thanks for the kindness, I had my first laptop (PC) in the mid 80s, and have been writing software on various hardware configurations for 30 years, so maybe I just need a bit more reality I guess? > The standard setup at my company is a ThinkPad connected to dual 27" monitors No one claimed that dual monitors isn't possible. Running two 4k large, high quality monitors off a low…
Yes, sounds like you've been drinking apple koolaid and fanboying over bullshit for 40 years.
> This is a silly discussion.
What's silly is reading through comments of multiple people discussing actual issues they face with macs, completely ignoring what's said, and then claiming 'apple is focused on higher-end experience' based on nothing but your own anecdotal experience and imagination.
Re: M3 Macs: there's more to performance than counting cores
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The complex backend code isn’t going to work on your little laptop either. This is a stupid position to take, because people care more about whether they can spin up a development environment, not run all the code that goes to production.
> The complex backend code isn’t going to work on your little laptop either. Of course it will if it's a linux laptop. Companies even give exceptions for linux laptops for exactly this reason. > This is a stupid position to take, because people care more about whether they can spin up a development environment, not run all the code that goes to production. You think being able to run the code you're working on is not…
> Many software companies (including FAANGs) have basically given up trying to support building/running most of their software on mac for these exact reasons
Why would Amazon or Google waste a single minute trying to get software to build on Macs that are targeted to run on Linux servers?
Exactly what point are you attempting to make?
Re: M3 Macs: there's more to performance than counting cores
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No one is going to run the entire AWS stack on their Mac when it’s targeting Linux. Amazon “suppprting” Macs mean outside developer support like AWS CLI, CDK, SAM, Amazon Chime, etc. Of course we all spun up Isengard accounts when we needed a lot of CPU horsepower or to run some dependencies instead of running something locally. Why wouldn’t you? You worked at the only company that never had to worry about a large AW…
> No one is going to run the entire AWS stack on their Mac when it’s targeting Linux. You literally just claimed everyone at Amazon uses macs for development and runs their code on their macs. This is not the case for the vast majority of code written at Amazon. > Amazon “suppprting” Macs mean outside developer support like AWS CLI, CDK, SAM, Amazon Chime, etc. Nobody said anything about 'amazon "supporting" macs' an…
When a developer puts a laptop in their Amazon issued backpack, what type of laptop do most of them use?
Re: M3 Macs: there's more to performance than counting cores
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The complex backend code isn’t going to work on your little laptop either. This is a stupid position to take, because people care more about whether they can spin up a development environment, not run all the code that goes to production.
> The complex backend code isn’t going to work on your little laptop either. Of course it will if it's a linux laptop. Companies even give exceptions for linux laptops for exactly this reason. > This is a stupid position to take, because people care more about whether they can spin up a development environment, not run all the code that goes to production. You think being able to run the code you're working on is not…
Re: M3 Macs: there's more to performance than counting cores
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> Maybe you need a reality check first. Thanks for the kindness, I had my first laptop (PC) in the mid 80s, and have been writing software on various hardware configurations for 30 years, so maybe I just need a bit more reality I guess? > The standard setup at my company is a ThinkPad connected to dual 27" monitors No one claimed that dual monitors isn't possible. Running two 4k large, high quality monitors off a low…
> I had my first laptop (PC) in the mid 80s, and have been writing software on various hardware configurations for 30 years, so maybe I just need a bit more reality I guess? Yes, sounds like you've been drinking apple koolaid and fanboying over bullshit for 40 years. > This is a silly discussion. What's silly is reading through comments of multiple people discussing actual issues they face with macs, completely ignor…
I mentioned that I switch back and forth between PC and Mac, depending on what's better at the time - so you're pretty far off the mark.
Regardless, why are you responding with such anger and venom?
> What's silly is ...
I'd like to suggest that you take a moment to reflect on how you treat others. Even a stranger online.
I notice that your account is 59 days old, so maybe you're new to the HN community.
This community frowns on personal attacks, we try to focus on comments that are informative and add to the discussion.
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