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Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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Post by marci » Tue, Oct 31, 2023, 2:38 AM UTC

Bitnotri wrote: post #356

jacquesm wrote: post #268

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Intel straggler here. And I'll remain one until Linux runs flawlessly on the newer generation. I have an older Thinkpad as my main workhorse and a now quite old Macbook air for on the road, it's battery has been shot for a long time but it still works quite good when plugged in and I'm too much of a miser to have it replaced. But if there is a way to run a full Linux distro on the newer hardware then I'll probably bu…

Check out asahilinux.org - I have archlinux arm running as my main OS on Air M1 for a year now.

They're a small team, they can only handle/reverse-engineer the M1 as of now.

edit: looks like they are make bigger strides than I thought on M2 as well https://github.com/AsahiLinux/docs/wiki/Feature-Support#m2-p...

Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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Post by oliyoung » Tue, Oct 31, 2023, 2:38 AM UTC

anemoiac wrote: post #37

Can we use more than one external display yet?

I'm sitting here on an M1 Max with two external screens ..

Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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Post by hajile » Tue, Oct 31, 2023, 2:39 AM UTC

lhl wrote: post #133

Apple launched M2 MBPs only in January. I wonder if Qualcomm's Snapdragon X Elite (benchmarking now, but not in products until mid-2024) drove some of the timing on this launch: https://www.windowscentral.com/hardware/laptops/qualcomm-bri...

Oryon seems like it's going to be very competitive with the very underwhelming M3 design.

Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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Post by stouset » Tue, Oct 31, 2023, 2:42 AM UTC

timschmidt wrote: post #387

stouset wrote: post #284

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> Wanting to dock onto two displays even at the low end doesn't seem like such a niche use-case. I mean, it almost certainly is? I would guess a majority of the low-end SKUs are rarely if ever attached to one external display. Two would be rarer still.

Intel has supported three external displays on integrated graphics since Ivy Bridge in 2012.

I’m not sure what that has to do with it being a niche use-case or not.

Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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Post by sigjuice » Tue, Oct 31, 2023, 2:42 AM UTC

soulofmischief wrote: post #291

hk1337 wrote: post #248

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You’re running a VM either way on a Mac. Docker without a VM is only available on Linux. EDIT I get your intent though because it runs better when the images match the host.

Yep! But at least it can leverage hyperkit and vastly reduce overhead when running images of matching architecture.

hyperkit does not run on ARM Macs

  $ brew install hyperkit
  hyperkit: The x86_64 architecture is required for this software.
  Error: hyperkit: An unsatisfied requirement failed this build.

Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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Post by lbourdages » Tue, Oct 31, 2023, 2:42 AM UTC

jki275 wrote: post #229

bischofs wrote: post #81

They kept mentioning performance relative to intel Macs which makes me think there is a large cohort of people sticking to their x86 rigs due to compatibility. Being able to run an x86 linux or windows VM is still a requirement for me.

I'm also still running an i9. I can't justify buying a new one since my 2019 model is still running strong!

I can't relate.

I would probably have upgraded my i9 as soon as the M1 Pros were announced if it hadn't been my employer's property.

I had constant thermal throttling from the instant I booted the damn thing. Worst laptop I ever had.

Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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Post by mbreese » Tue, Oct 31, 2023, 2:45 AM UTC

SparkyMcUnicorn wrote: post #292

hk1337 wrote: post #248

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You’re running a VM either way on a Mac. Docker without a VM is only available on Linux. EDIT I get your intent though because it runs better when the images match the host.

MacOS can run MacOS containers natively, but I understand that's not much help for most people. https://macoscontainers.org/

Yeah, but that also requires disabling SIP, so you still might want to run it in a VM.

Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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Post by paulryanrogers » Tue, Oct 31, 2023, 2:46 AM UTC

latchkey wrote: post #326

rewmie wrote: post #299

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> Any reason for not upgrading? Why is this sort of question always framed as if people have to provide a justification for not buying a new model, as if spending money on the new shiny without any reason is normal or desirable? We live in a day and age where hardware bought a decade ago still packs enough punch to run most of today's software without any hiccup. Why would anyone waste their cash to replace something…

It is an honest question. For some background in my thinking, it is because today's announcement really focused on Intel users. My semi-educated guess is that Apple did a whole bunch of user studies and realized there are a lot of people out there, like the OP, who haven't upgraded yet, hence the focus. As a result, I'm genuinely curious why this person hasn't upgraded. And for my own personal experience, the upgrade…

This isn't Huffy bikes vs F1 racers. Unless your workload is heavily CPU bound. And even then it's probably more like a 20yo F1 car vs a new one.

We also live on a finite planet. And then energy savings for many desk jockeys is unlikely to be worth it for a few decades more, if one considers the literal tons of material and energy in manufacturing.

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Post by yreg » Tue, Oct 31, 2023, 2:46 AM UTC

flippy_flops wrote: post #245

Am i the only one who is frustrated with the mac monitor options these days? I don't know anyone who uses a 27" desktop monitor, much less a 24". What year is it? And $5k for a 32" is insulting.

The “correct” retina resolutions are 4k at 24", 5k at 27" and 6k at 32".

Apple won't make a display that doesn't align to that, since macOS doesn't handle anything else perfectly.

Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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Post by solardev » Tue, Oct 31, 2023, 2:47 AM UTC

fastball wrote: post #397

solardev wrote: post #381

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1/3 is pretty good for a used computer, TBH. I usually get like 20% or less... sometimes they're hard to even give away.

Fair, this one was in literally perfect condition though. No scratches / damage and a brand new battery.

It's like buying a car. The moment your Mac walks out of the store, the ghost of Steve Jobs comes and personally curses it to 2/3 of its value that very instant.