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Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by bigstrat2003 »

devit wrote: post #388
bigstrat2003 wrote: post #264

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't put my phone in a case and don't understand why people do. Dropping your phone is a rare event, not a serious risk.

In my experience most of the flagship phones are slippery enough that it's not a rare event to drop them if you don't use a case made out of a higher friction material. Of course that's an incredibly dumb design, but unfortunately they are made like that.

I guess I can't relate. I've had a Pixel (the first one) and I didn't feel like it was slippery or anything. It's been a while but I think the reason I had to replace it wasn't damage, but because it wouldn't hold a charge any more. Otherwise I'd still probably have it, I really liked that phone.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by nerdwaller »

kelnos wrote: post #255
kylecazar wrote: post #196

It's odd to me that my Pixel 7 Pro is worth less in trade-in value than iPhone 11. I'm sure there are reasons, but it stings a little.

I was surprised to see my Pixel 4 is worth $250 for trade-in. I've never actually traded in any of my old phones, on the fear that the new one might break at some point and I'd need a backup. Granted I've only once had to take advantage of this in the 13 years I've had smartphones. I didn't click all the way through, but I'm hoping you don't have to turn in the old phone immediately... I'd like to hang onto it for at…

> I didn't click all the way through, but I'm hoping you don't have to turn in the old phone immediately... I'd like to hang onto it for at least a couple weeks just in case I find the backup/restore process hasn't completely done its job.

Last I remember looking the timeline is within 30 days of receiving the new device.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by drchickensalad »

Barrin92 wrote: post #391
sanswork wrote: post #376

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People have been saying this literally since the release of the pentium and probably earlier. From where I'm sitting software is millions of times better today than it was in the 90s when I first started hearing people saying this(usually complaining about developers using C++ instead of assembly). Even just on the iphone the improvements in software have been dramatic over the past 10 years. Go install one of the ea…

> From where I'm sitting software is millions of times better today than it was in the 90s I feel compelled to bring up this tweet from John Carmack I just saw a few hours ago. The most popular editor on the planet feels laggier than stuff Borland made in the 90s, on hardware probably a thousand times as fast. I don't know how anyone can say software is great with a straight face. We have supercomputers in our pocket…

The ratio of users who give a shit about 100ms of input lag on a 4 year old phone is tiny compared to devs who cared about typing lag 20 years ago

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by nneonneo »

Alupis wrote: post #394
nneonneo wrote: post #157

Cool, maybe they can fix emergency calling sometime in that seven year window? https://www.androidauthority.com/psa-google-pixel-911-emerge...

FTFA: > The issue was traced to Microsoft Teams I want to know how a crappy app from Microsoft can break the dialer on my phone. What the hell?

The recent issue (from the last two years) does not appear to be Teams-related. The Teams thing was from the first wave of emergency call failures, which was traced to a bad interaction between Teams and the Android dialer.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by sanswork »

Barrin92 wrote: post #391
sanswork wrote: post #376

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People have been saying this literally since the release of the pentium and probably earlier. From where I'm sitting software is millions of times better today than it was in the 90s when I first started hearing people saying this(usually complaining about developers using C++ instead of assembly). Even just on the iphone the improvements in software have been dramatic over the past 10 years. Go install one of the ea…

> From where I'm sitting software is millions of times better today than it was in the 90s I feel compelled to bring up this tweet from John Carmack I just saw a few hours ago. The most popular editor on the planet feels laggier than stuff Borland made in the 90s, on hardware probably a thousand times as fast. I don't know how anyone can say software is great with a straight face. We have supercomputers in our pocket…

Turbo C++ was my first IDE(a birthday present when I was a kid) and I will always be grateful of it for triggering my love of programming but to say that is even in the same category as a modern IDE is a huge stretch. Of course modern stuff is laggier for most IDE's as it's doing real time analysis on your code as you type. If you want to compare it with a Borland IDE from the 90s open up notepad and start typing.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by nerdwaller »

At first the AI photo editing features surprised me as likely awkward, however with two little kids - I can see a lot of value here if it works well.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by paulryanrogers »

vel0city wrote: post #352
chimeracoder wrote: post #346

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> I wonder how much of that is the software demands increasing and the flash storage itself wearing out over time. As flash storage wears it'll often go slower and slower as the error correction needs to process more to actually get you the uncorrupted bits. This is why a lot of cheap devices tend to just become unbearably slow after a while, their storage just gets to be way too slow. Too bad no flagship phones have…

If we're looking at older phones with removable storage, it usually limited what could be put on the SD card. And in the end the OS and system libraries were still on the on-board storage which would wear out over the years. And there's good reason for the OS not being on a microSD card. Run a Raspberry Pi without locking the storage and see how fast it'll corrupt itself. Most SD cards have pretty miserable reliabili…

Perhaps SDcard isn't the right standard. Or some stress testing certification is in order

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by brewtide »

synergy20 wrote: post #354

still using pixel3, except they stopped upgrading the software a while ago, still it's usable though some apps refuse to be upgraded, sigh

Same here, but Ive been using lineageOS on mine for a year or so now?

Works great, minus the battery life. On first 'amazon' battery replacement and debating a 2nd. Broke the rear glass changing it last time -- but now I have a pixel 3 'panda'.

Was really hoping to see a similarity sized phone.

Also, do you use the squeeze feature of the phone? I use it all the time - to activate assistant in my pocket, squeezing through the pocket , and in headphones it pops up. Slick.

Guess I'm just replacing another battery.

Hope Google or some phone company is reading all these small phone requests. I understand the compromise may be battery life. I'm fine with that. It needs to fit in a pocket AND be able to bend around and do physical work without binding up or snapping in half.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by valzam »

guyzero wrote: post #366
SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #24

I was interested in this release. But right now it's a $20 difference here in CAD between the Pixel 8 Pro 256 GB and the S23 Ultra 256 GB (there's a sale going on for the S23). With all of the Pixel's heat, battery, and connectivity issues (bad reception I can live with, but not knowing if I can call 911?), I can't justify it at all.

But you have to deal with Samsung's UI in the S23 Ultra. It's still not that great after over a decade of existence.

Contrapoint: Samsungs UI is much cleaner than modern pixel phones. After a minimal amount of setup it gets much less in the way than stock android on pixel phones.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by doobiedowner »

Just switched my work phone to a flip phone. Fuck smart phones. My life and job aren't that important for immediate email updates.

I've got automated SMS texts for critical alarms. if something else is burning down, someone will call.

I miss email on my phone, but it just makes me use the phone for what it is for: Talking

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