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> Today, the word “Luddite” is used as an insult to anyone resistant to technological innovation Interesting, I never thought of the term as pejorative. I always thought of the movement as a kind of working-class heroes trying to navigate an uncertain future where rich people made them obsolete.
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It's not pejorative for you if you are a liberal, for me it is pejorative, I see Luddites as people who damage important parts of production systems and threaten people's lives. I understand your point of view if you're from a first-world country and you never experienced the terror of having people interfering with the means of production.
It is sometimes scary how long propaganda continues to work. In the case of the Luddites, ot was factory owners propaganda about, rightfully, discruntled workers opossing abuse and exploitation. In a sense, this propaganda win in England gave us the current oppossition to unions we see in the US and among corporations.
> Today, the word “Luddite” is used as an insult to anyone resistant to technological innovation Interesting, I never thought of the term as pejorative. I always thought of the movement as a kind of working-class heroes trying to navigate an uncertain future where rich people made them obsolete.
Presumably you work in technology, yet you see destroying technology as heroic?
The luddite example is one of suddenness: The owners see the massive advantage of mechanization and move in fast. The workers are blindsided - they don't have the time and spend all the time they do have in a ludicrous war. The regions are somewhat mono-industry which completes in making a giant mess. All in all the exact quandary not to get caught in. Now that they have demonstrated it, long ago, do we really have t…
I remember the mantra of some in the tech field of "no problem - just learn to code" when blue collar jobs in the manufacturing in the US was on the wane as production moved to cheaper locations overseas.
They came for the manual laborers, and I was not a manual laborer, so I did nothing. Then they came for the skilled craftsmen, and I was not a skilled craftsman, so I did nothing. Then they came for the clerks and bookeepers, and I was not a clerk or a bookkeeper, so I did nothing. Now they've come for the chattering classes, and there is no one left to speak for me.
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It is sometimes scary how long propaganda continues to work. In the case of the Luddites, ot was factory owners propaganda about, rightfully, discruntled workers opossing abuse and exploitation. In a sense, this propaganda win in England gave us the current oppossition to unions we see in the US and among corporations.
It's funny this guy was worried about the luddites hurting people when several luddites were ultimately gunned down.
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China actually has regulation for safe AI. It's hard to say how "safe" that regulation is. But it's better than what US is doing with OpenAI. Essentially do whatever lol. https://www.lw.com/admin/upload/SiteAttachments/Chinas-New-A...
They also use AI to monitor and police their own citizens. AI serves the common good there and is a tool that is wielded by the elite that dictates what that common good is. Nominally in their subject's name of course. But it's not a democracy.
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I think it's better to think of what jobs will be spared when we have a general problem solver, or a general goal to action mapper. I can't think of a single one.
Athletes might be an example. But yes, once robotics advances, there won't be that many left.