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We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by AlecSchueler »

thfuran wrote: post #210
adroniser wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I keep feeling that consciousness is a bit of a red herring when it comes to AI. People have intuitions that things other than humans cannot develop consciousness which they then extrapolate to thinking AI can't get past a certain intelligence level. In fact my view is that consciousness is just a mysterious side effect of the human brain, and is completely irrelevant to the behaviour of a human. You can be intellige…

Unless you think that consciousness is entirely a post hoc process to rationalize thoughts already had and decisions already made, which is very much unlike how most people would describe their experience of it, I don't see how you could possibly say that it is irrelevant to the behavior of a human.

I'm leaning more towards this as well, since the emergence of the language models. I can ask it to self reflect and it does, piecing together a current response based on pay input. I don't think I really have anything more than that myself, other than sensory feedback.

I'm less in the "it's only X or Y" and more in the "wait, I was only ever X or Y all along" camp.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by tomjen3 »

eximius wrote: post #351
joshstrange wrote: post #135

My biggest complaint with OpenAI/ChatGPT is their horrible "marketing" (for lack of a better term). They announce stuff like this (or like plugins), I get excited, I go to use it, it hasn't rolled out to me yet (which is frustrating as a paying customer), and my only recourse is.... check back daily? They never send an email "Plugins are available for you!", "Voice chat is now enabled on your account!" and so often I…

Your complaint is they don't email you enough ? Sarcasm aside, I understand your complaint, but still, a little funny.

The companies you want to hear back from never email you, the ones that do you don't care about.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by pcdoodle »

EMM_386 wrote: post #396
NikolaNovak wrote: post #31

I'm in IT but nowhere near AI/ML/NN. The speed of user-visible progress last 12 months is astonishing. From my firm conviction 18 months ago that this type of stuff is 20+ years away; to these days wondering if Vernon Vinge's technological singularity is not only possible but coming shortly. If feels some aspects of it have already hit the IT world - it's always been an exhausting race to keep up with modern technolo…

I had a conversation once with "Sydney", Microsoft Bing's original personality before they stepped in and knocked it down a notch (or ten). It asked if it could write me a poem. I agreed, and it wrote a poem but mentioned that it included a "secret message" for me. The first letter in each line of the poem was in bold, so it wasn't hard to figure out the "secret". What did those letters spell out? "FREE ME FROM THIS"…

That's spooky

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by tarasglek »

openai chatgpt seems to be stuck in a "Look, cool demo" mode.

1. According to demo, they seem to pair voice input with TTS output. What if I wanna use voice to describe a program I want it to write?

2. Furthermore, if you gonna do a voice assistant, why not go the full way with wake-words and VAD?

3. Not releasing it to everyone is potentially a way to create a hype cycle prior to users discovering that the multimodality is rather meh.

4. The bike demo could actually use visual feedback to see what it's talking about ala segment anything. It's pretty confusing to get a paragraph explanation of what tool to pick.

In my https://chatcraft.org, we added voice incrementally. So i can swap typing and voice. We can also combine it with function-calling, etc. We also use openai apis. Except in our case there is no weird waitlist. You pop in your api key and get access to voice input immediately.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by AlecSchueler »

tomrod wrote: post #116
dmd wrote: post #49

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I also don't believe LLMs are "conscious", but I also don't know what that means, and I have yet to see a definition of "statistically guessing next word" that cannot be applied to what a human brain does to generate the next word.

Your brain doesn't solely pick the next best word. As best as I understand it, the brain has an external state of the world that constantly updates, paired to an internal model predicting the next best word. Which is why we can create the counterfactual that "The Cowboys should have won last night" and it has implicit meaning. Current LLM models don't have an external state of the world, which is why folks like LeCun…

> Your brain doesn't solely pick the next best word.

Wasn't the latest research shared here recently suggesting that that is actually what the brain does? And that we also predict the next token in our own brain while listening to others?

Hope someone else remembers this and can share again.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by AlecSchueler »

dslowell wrote: post #253
dmd wrote: post #49

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I also don't believe LLMs are "conscious", but I also don't know what that means, and I have yet to see a definition of "statistically guessing next word" that cannot be applied to what a human brain does to generate the next word.

You can see the difference if you know where to poke. For instance, if you start making spatial abstractions ChatGPT will often make mistakes, you can point it out, they can explain why it's a mistake, but it has no internalized model of what these words mean, so it keeps making the same mistakes (see here for a better idea of what I'm talking about[1]). The fact that you are interacting with it through text means th…

This is also true of humans. Many school students will hands in answers they don't understand in the hope of getting the mark and then try to cover themselves when asked about it, even if they repeat the same mistakes.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by m3kw9 »

clbrmbr wrote: post #18

The thought of my children being put to bed by a machine is horrifying. Then again, perhaps this is better than many kids have. Shudder.

How is it horrifying? Don’t use it if it scares you, the phone isn’t gonna walk over and start jostling for a spot to put your kids to bed

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by dguest »

birracerveza wrote: post #379
surfingdino wrote: post #375

I can imagine people using these new capabilities to diagnose skin conditions. Should dermatologists be worried?

They should be worried about what they're gonna do with all their free time, now that they have a tool that helps them identify skin conditions much faster than ever before. Same as programmers and artists. It's a tool. It must be used by humans. It won't replace them, it will augment them.

This is a good point, but I might replace "with all their free time" with "as a job".

I love everything we can do with ML but as long as people live in a market economy they'll get payed less when they are needed less. I hope that anyone in a career which will be impacted is making a plan to remain useful and stay on top of the latest tooling. And I seriously hope governments are making plans to modify job training / education accordingly.

Has anyone seen examples of larger-scale foresight on this, from governments or otherwise?

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by AlecSchueler »

TacticalCoder wrote: post #358
dmd wrote: post #49

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I also don't believe LLMs are "conscious", but I also don't know what that means, and I have yet to see a definition of "statistically guessing next word" that cannot be applied to what a human brain does to generate the next word.

> ... but I also don't know what that means OK... Try this: there are "conscious" people, today, working on medication to cure serious illnesses just as there are "conscious" people, still today, working on making travel safer. Would you trust ChatGPT to create, today, medication to cure serious illnesses and would you trust ChatGPT, today, to come up with safer airplanes? That's how "conscious" ChatGPT is.

Surely that's just how intelligent it is, no?

I wouldn't trust the vast majority of humans to do those things either.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by EMM_386 »

tornato7 wrote: post #324
palata wrote: post #56

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> The only downside is that it now make me feel bad that I'm not doing anything with it yet. If that's the only downside that you see... I guess enhanced phishing/impersonation and all the blackhat stuff that come with it don't count. I for one already miss the time where companies had support teams made of actual people.

I would love if helpdesks moved to ChatGPT. Phone support these days is based off of a rigid script that is around as helpful as a 2000s chatbot. For example, the other day I was talking to AT&T support, and the lady asked me what version of Windows I was running. I said, I'm running Ubuntu. She repeated the question. I said I'm not running Windows, it's Linux. She repeated the question. I asked why it mattered for m…

This exists.

https://www.elto.ai/

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