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Re: LazyVim

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Post by Timpy »

pseufaux wrote: post #392
Timpy wrote: post #390

I really wish I could just put a native neovim or vim text editor inside VSCode and call it a day. I absolutely love the lightning fast experience of editing with vim. When I know exactly what I want to do, I feel like I just ripped a line of spice and piloted a trade vehicle across Frank Herbert's universe. But a lot of my job is exploring a code base and trying to figure out what the hell is going on, and I have to…

Have you tried the vscode-neovim extension? That's basically what it does. https://github.com/vscode-neovim/vscode-neovim

It sounds like that's exactly what I was looking for. Thank you!

Re: LazyVim

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Post by JeremyNT »

noud wrote: post #132

Am I the only one using vanilla vim with a minimal configuration file ( Very easy to setup. Moreover, when I'm on a different computer and open (vanilla) vim without any configurations. I know that everything is more or less the same as my default vim environment. I think it's not that hard to learn developing in the default vim environment, with some minor tweaks. Also related, How to Do 90% of What Plugins Do (With…

I worked this way for ages, but over time I came to appreciate some modern IDE-like conveniences like linters (I use ALE for this stuff). Especially thanks to LSP (which neovim supports natively, though I stick to upstream Vim myself) you can get a lot of value from these.

I think it's easy to go overboard though. A lot of plugins (and these meta-plugins) provide little value over what vim can do on its own with a little configuration.

Re: LazyVim

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Post by mathisfun123 »

nextlevelwizard wrote: post #180
mathisfun123 wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Turn it into a game if you want. some of us don't have time to play games? i mean definitely used to when i was a kid but now i have lots of deadlines and little enough time to play games with my human friends let alone with my editor. > make the editor __yours__ a good tool is useful immediately and has the potential to be personalized. i mean imagine how little carpentry would ever get done if every hammer, drill…

>some of us don't have time to play games? Be honest how productive are you? You probably waste more time during your workday than you do work. Not every day, you might even have very productive weeks, but think over a year how many hours you "waste" on taking breaks to read HackerNews or Reddit or make a Tweet or whatever. You could spend that time fixing issues with your editor and that would lead to improved workf…

> Be honest how productive are you? You probably waste more time during your workday than you do work. Not every day, you might even have very productive weeks, but think over a year how many hours you "waste

Lol. Except for the odd day a month, I have worked every single day for the last 2 years (July 15 2021, when I started an internship at FB). I'm in a PhD program and I have a 20-30 hour/week job during the academic year and full-time internships during summers.

> HackerNews or Reddit

I read hn before bed for a couple of minutes

Re: LazyVim

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Post by smarx007 »

danjac wrote: post #78

I've been using vim for years, switched to neovim, and at this point I'm ready to throw in the towel and just use vscode for anything beyond simple text editing. The amount of work needed to get a basic IDE up and running for your languages of choice, even for commonly used languages such as Python or Javascript, is far too much for someone who wants to get on with their day job or hobby coding and doesn't want to sp…

Just tried today to switch from Vim to Neovim as my EDITOR when I work over SSH (I use VS Code otherwise, I know about its SSH capabilities but don’t use them to edit just one file).

Result: had to add a PPA on my Ubuntu server (not ideal but OK), most plugins require nvim 0.8+. Switched to the unstable PPA (because the stable PPA ships 0.7), turns out it doesn’t ship the latest release but instead a nightly dev build.

While editing Lua configs of Neovim, I tried to use ‘micro’ just for fun.

Result: my new EDITOR and GIT_EDITOR (that I previously set for +startinsert) are now set to ‘micro’. Alt+/ for commenting code, sane shortcuts, and code highlighting cover 90% of my needs.

Re: LazyVim

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Post by yadingus »

prohobo wrote: post #224
danjac wrote: post #78

I've been using vim for years, switched to neovim, and at this point I'm ready to throw in the towel and just use vscode for anything beyond simple text editing. The amount of work needed to get a basic IDE up and running for your languages of choice, even for commonly used languages such as Python or Javascript, is far too much for someone who wants to get on with their day job or hobby coding and doesn't want to sp…

I just want mouse support... I need a GUI for my projects to navigate and organize them well, and I don't like how blind and tied up I feel in Neovim. I'm looking forward to some kind of open source VS Code killer with vim editing and native platform builds.

Out of curiosity, why do you need your text editor to also be a perfect file manager?

Re: LazyVim

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Post by cgeier »

p-e-w wrote: post #217
xeyownt wrote: post #197

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You get exactly the same functionality with (neo)vim plugins. Only difference is that because vim has been open-source for decade, there are many many more plugins, and hence the choice is harder to make. VSCode also helped improve the (neo)vim experience (e.g. language servers) Comparing VSCode and Vim is like comparing a standard calculator with an RPN one.

> Only difference is that because vim has been open-source for decade, there are many many more plugins No, the main difference is in the quality of plugins, not in how many there are. For example, Rust-Analyzer provides an official VSCode extension, which is professionally maintained by members of the Rust core team. The extension is part of the Rust-Analyzer project itself, and can be installed with a single click,…

> No, the main difference is in the quality of plugins, not in how many there are.

I don't think that is true. If you browse the vscode marketplace and search e.g. for python [1] you literally get hundreds of plugins. If you scroll down only a bit, you quickly end up at plugins that only have a few hundred to a few ten downloads. I highly doubt that the quality of those plugins is better than the plugins for (neo)vim.

For your Rust-Analyzer Plugin example: I can install Rust-Analyzer with Mason in a few seconds as well and then (if you have lsp-zero [3] installed) it also just works™.

But I agree, keeping a vim configuration up to date is akin to a hobby (which I by the way enjoy quite bit).

[1] https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/search?term=python&targ... [2] https://github.com/williamboman/mason.nvim [3] https://github.com/VonHeikemen/lsp-zero.nvim

Re: LazyVim

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Post by myth2018 »

danjac wrote: post #78

I've been using vim for years, switched to neovim, and at this point I'm ready to throw in the towel and just use vscode for anything beyond simple text editing. The amount of work needed to get a basic IDE up and running for your languages of choice, even for commonly used languages such as Python or Javascript, is far too much for someone who wants to get on with their day job or hobby coding and doesn't want to sp…

My experience with vim differs drastically and I believe the root of most problems you had stems from trying to turn vim into an IDE.

I won't argue at all. If you prefer IDEs, you go for it. But maybe vim and neovim aren't the best choices.

I use vim as a text editing tool, solely. My .vimrc contains ~ 20 lines. Use 2 popular plugins to help me finding and opening files, and one plugin to support editorconfigs (useful for sharing formatting rules with folks using vscode in the team). And I use makefiles or other scripts to call external tools (formatters, linters etc).

There's probably a billion of plugins which could increment my productivity, but honestly I don't care much.

Re: LazyVim

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Post by 3836293648 »

p-e-w wrote: post #217
xeyownt wrote: post #197

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You get exactly the same functionality with (neo)vim plugins. Only difference is that because vim has been open-source for decade, there are many many more plugins, and hence the choice is harder to make. VSCode also helped improve the (neo)vim experience (e.g. language servers) Comparing VSCode and Vim is like comparing a standard calculator with an RPN one.

> Only difference is that because vim has been open-source for decade, there are many many more plugins No, the main difference is in the quality of plugins, not in how many there are. For example, Rust-Analyzer provides an official VSCode extension, which is professionally maintained by members of the Rust core team. The extension is part of the Rust-Analyzer project itself, and can be installed with a single click,…

That's just plain untrue. Vim always kept its own rust-analyzer binary and prompted me to update it. I use emacs now and actually have to update it myself

Re: LazyVim

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Post by _blz2 »

altonas wrote: post #76

LazyVim got me back into vim. After years of custom configs and/or heavily editing lunarvim and nvChad I was getting a bit burnt out but decided to give lazyVim a try, and I was absolutely blown away. For the first time a vim setup actually felt like a real IDE. It took about 60 seconds to go from having lazyvim installed to having a fully functional IDE that I could use at work in a real environment. That's the same…

lazyvim is the package/plugin manager and LazyVim is the distro
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