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Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

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Post by soundnote »

fardo wrote: post #166
devmunchies wrote: post #162

I have brave search as default but always do a google bang “!g”. I do this for every search but figure I’m giving brave some data on all my searches to help improve it. I guess it’s be better if I clicked a link on their results too for reinforcement learning.

Once you’ve doing this, is there a value-add Brave is providing over just using Google through a VPN? As someone without much familiarity, this alternative seems circuitous if Google results are what you actually want.

He wants to show Brave the queries so they can improve their index without suffering worse results while Brave's index is lagging behind for his purposes.

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Post by DavideNL »

ementally wrote: post #43

I actually find their Goggles [0] feature really interesting. [0] https://search.brave.com/help/goggles

> “ However, note that if a Goggle is used only by one, or a very small number of people, the Goggle URL could serve as an identifier, and enable the creation of a profile of the user’s queries while using that particular Goggle.”

That’s a bit of a shame… :’(

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Post by wildrhythms »

soundnote wrote: post #396
AlotOfReading wrote: post #330

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This comment was completely incongruous with my previous Brave experiences, so I went ahead and did a fresh install on a clean system. * The wallet is enabled by default. * The new tab page shows crypto ads by default. I couldn't figure out how to opt-out of these despite a couple of minutes in the "customize dashboard" menu. I know the option exists, but it's well-hidden. * The BAT rewards icon is enabled by default…

> * The new tab page shows crypto ads by default. I couldn't figure out how to opt-out of these despite a couple of minutes in the "customize dashboard" menu. I know the option exists, but it's well-hidden. Customize->Background image. Has a total of two switches. One for background images at all, the other for sponsored background images. Turn the second one off.

The discussion is about the default setting; not the ability to turn it on and off later.

Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

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Post by matheusmoreira »

speedgoose wrote: post #359
matheusmoreira wrote: post #309

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> By using Firefox you support Mozilla, so you support the CEO financing political campaigns you don’t agree with. I use Firefox because it's a functional browser with the best uBlock Origin support. Whatever political campaigns the guy in charge contributes to is not a factor, it's not even something I think about at all. I shouldn't even have to know who's in charge, if that information ever comes up it's probably…

I understand that you don't care and it's fine. Some people do care.

I do care -- about the impact this guy leaving had on Firefox. Given the state of Brave today, one's gotta wonder what Firefox would've been like today had he not left.

Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

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Post by dmichulke »

schmuelio wrote: post #388
iopq wrote: post #353

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If they censor "misinformation" in one case, what's to stop them from censoring other "misinformation"? Maybe the COVID lab leak theory is deemed misinformation and removed from your search result. But it's not 100% proven either way, who is to say that this is "misinformation"? It's one thing to suggest an opinion that's just more popular, it's another to remove the competing opinions

Oh boy that slope sure seems slippery doesn't it? You know that reasoning can be applied to literally any removal right? There's _tons_ of stuff that it would be pretty reasonable to remove (and I'm sure you'd agree that things like CP shouldn't be on there etc.). There's also plenty of stuff that they would likely _have_ to remove if the state told them to (I don't have direct evidence of this happening, so take it…

The difference is the motive - political matters are influencing people and thereby who's in power.

"literally any removal" is not inherently political

Think about it as a potential conflict of interest when a politician or a company decides that a topic should be censored.

Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

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Post by soundnote »

wildrhythms wrote: post #403
soundnote wrote: post #396

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> * The new tab page shows crypto ads by default. I couldn't figure out how to opt-out of these despite a couple of minutes in the "customize dashboard" menu. I know the option exists, but it's well-hidden. Customize->Background image. Has a total of two switches. One for background images at all, the other for sponsored background images. Turn the second one off.

The discussion is about the default setting; not the ability to turn it on and off later.

The person I was responding to said it was "well hidden". It's literally one of a grand total of two toggles in the relevant settings screen, which is also the first one that opens if you click the customize button.

Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

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Post by e12e »

conical wrote: post #336
ww520 wrote: post #303

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If a hotel double booked you and you showed up, the hotel would walk you to a nearby similar hotel all paid for by the hotel. The “walk” process is a standard industry practice.

This whole reply thread looks astroturfed.

I worked a few years as a night manager in a hotel in Norway - we always had to figure out a solution when overbooked - at "our" expense (customer pays/pre-paid agreed upon price, we cover room and transport at alternative accommodation - usually more expensive).

As a bonus re: booking.com - they integrated with our booking system and always overbooked, unless our system lied about available rooms (would happily sell rooms when none were available - especially annoying at night, when a booked room typically means an occupied room).

Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

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Post by soundnote »

brianbreslin wrote: post #145

How does Brave monetize this? How do they monetize their app in general? Is there a ppc ad platform they're offering?

Browser: Shows sponsored images along with pretty wallpapers on the new tab page (opt-out, one toggle to turn off, can turn off ads and leave Brave-sourced pretty images in). Users can opt in to Brave Rewards which shows them ads as toaster popups (how many is the user's choice), and users get a cut of the ad revenue as BAT.

Brave Rewards tipping service: Show users the toaster popups. Brave takes a cut when users tip creators or websites with the built-in tipping system.

Brave News: Funded by users having Brave Rewards ads enabled.

Brave Talk: Traditional subscription service.

Brave Search: Keyword-based ads, a traditional subscription for ad-free search.

Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

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Post by e12e »

vinay_ys wrote: post #300
ptero wrote: post #259

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That does not match my experience. IME the bumping is first and foremost dependent on the time of arrival. While the hotel has rooms, they will give them out to those who booked and show up. Should the hotel run out due to overbooking, how the next guest booked a room is not going to matter. My 2c.

Big sophisticated hotels have blocks of rooms at different price points. So, even if there are rooms currently empty but have been reserved for customers who have paid higher price, they won't give them to you. In recent years, I have not had any booking problems whatsoever. Only problem I had more than 10 years ago was about arriving very late and finding that my room reservation had been released and they were full…

> even if there are rooms currently empty but have been reserved for customers who have paid higher price, they won't give them to you.

In my experience (not very big hotel) - the emphasis was on full occupancy - rooms would only be held (with other guest with booking at the counter) in rare circumstances (eg we knew an incoming flight was delayed and we were certain the other guest would arrive. Even then we might bump the other guest if it meant we had more time to scramble to find an alternative room for the guest that hadn't shown up yet).

Re: Every web search result in Brave Search is now served by our own index

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Post by ericmay »

crossroadsguy wrote: post #248
toomanyusers wrote: post #194

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I stopped using DuckDuckGo when it introduced its email relay service. This service had (and I think still does have) the peculiar requirement that the user must install a browser extension in order to use it. I can think of no valid reason why a (supposedly privacy-respecting) email relay service should require a browser extension to be installed. This made me realize DuckDuckGo may not actually value privacy. I sto…

Companies like DDG and Apple don’t do privacy. They do privacy theatre . Just that Apple is too big with too much of a PR/marketing budget and has an ultra/rabidly loyal fanbase so it works for them. There are companies that do privacy but they’re usually too small to be noticed outside the crowd of extremely privacy conscious people. Mozila is a famous one though. Yup, even after their Pocket fiasco and some more I…

Can you describe the difference between “privacy” and “privacy theater”?
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