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OpenAI’s CEO says the age of giant AI models is already over

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Re: OpenAI’s CEO says the age of giant AI models is already over

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The point is that now we're at the point of diminishing return for increasing model size, unless we find a better modeling architecture than Transformer. I think this is likely true; while all the other companies underestimated the capability of transformer (including Google itself!), OpenAI made a fairly accurate bet on the transformer based on the scaling law, put all the efforts to squeeze it until the last drop a…

> 640K ought to be enough for anybody

Re: OpenAI’s CEO says the age of giant AI models is already over

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dude someone lied their way into being president of the united states all while people fact checked him basically immediately after each lie. lying doesnt make a difference.

He’s not presenting false evidence here, he’s presenting a hunch. It’s a guess. No one is going to gain anything from this one way or another.

He is using his authority to put an idea in the minds of others. That idea is:

"don't bother competing with me. i have already won."

Re: OpenAI’s CEO says the age of giant AI models is already over

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

or like a curve of model complexity versus results or whatever showing it asymptotically approaches whatever. actually there was a great paper from microsoft research from like 2001 on spam filtering where they demonstrated that model complexity necessary for spam filtering went down as the size of the data set went up. That paper, which i can't seem to find now, had a big impact on me as a researcher because it so c…

I believe this is the paper which you are referring to: https://aclanthology.org/P01-1005.pdf ("Scaling to Very Very Large Corpora for Natural Language Disambiguation" by Michele Banko and Eric Brill, Microsoft Research, 2001)

omg i have been searching forever for this. THANK YOU.

Re: OpenAI’s CEO says the age of giant AI models is already over

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The point is that now we're at the point of diminishing return for increasing model size, unless we find a better modeling architecture than Transformer. I think this is likely true; while all the other companies underestimated the capability of transformer (including Google itself!), OpenAI made a fairly accurate bet on the transformer based on the scaling law, put all the efforts to squeeze it until the last drop a…

> (including Google itself!) Bet Google won’t make that mistake again, i.e. it won’t publish as much and will be much more careful about what it publishes, least they give a competitor a useful tool and get nothing in return - when the competitor (in this case very ironically named) goes full commercial and close source everything they can. Open collaboration in AI, at least when it comes to corporations, might have…

Doesn't Google have any patents on the transformer architecture? I assume large enterprises tend to patent everything that comes out of their research.

Re: OpenAI’s CEO says the age of giant AI models is already over

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Yeah I think what's happened to OpenAI is the same happening to all tech companies. They were spending a lot of money building these LLM's and now they've been told to cut back costs they no longer have the funding to build the next "double the size of the last one" model.

Interestingly what's makes ChatGPT work is the size of the model so I think they've found their dead stop.

Lot's of the bullish comments have been talking about how ChatGPT is a bit shit right now but will exponentially get better and I think the answer is now the progress will be much slower and more linear. That is if they can stay funded which is a very big if. As an org they are bleeding money.

Re: OpenAI’s CEO says the age of giant AI models is already over

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Seems like a wild claim to make without any examples of gpt models which are bigger and no demonstrably better.

Better on which axis? Do you want an AI that takes one hour to respond to? Some would for certain fields, but getting something fast and cheap is going to be hard now that Moore’s law is over.

Yes - image generation AIs also take longer to generate higher resolution pictures.

I'd rather have a LLM that thinks a bit longer than a LLM that spits out wrong answers immediately.

Re: OpenAI’s CEO says the age of giant AI models is already over

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Sam Altman and OpenAI must be pretty nervous. They have first mover advantage but they hold no hook or moat. Unless they can somehow keep their improvements ahead of the rest of the industry then they'll be lost among a crowd.

Yeah. Sadly I believe they may lose their spot due to their concern for safety. They got here by pushing the envelope. But now with everyone freaking out, he's not putting off the training of a new model due to 'safety issues' (with plugins i suspect)
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