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Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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The $449 Intel 1340p or AMD Ryzen mainboard seems to be attractively priced against other barebones mini PCs and the Mac Mini too!

For $300 you can get an i5-13400 and a board though.

You can buy this combo for $450, maybe for $400, but I don't see how you can get it for $300. The processor alone seems to go for >$240, and I don't see how you can hope to get a compatible motherboard for <$60.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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AMD frameworks is massive news, but to be honest I'm probably most excited about the customisable keyboard. Whilst I don't need a numpad, the possibility of adding a built-in midi controller to my laptop sounds fantastic. Also looks like the cooling has been improved.

Was very close to pulling the trigger on a new Thinkpad, but now I might hold off. I just wish you could get frameworks in the same finish, though I suppose with the chassis being open source its feasible that someone else will start selling those

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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I’m happy to answer questions that everyone has about what we announced! It may be a little while until I’m able to jump back on though.

Is there anything in the works for exchanging or a trade-in scheme for models of the 13 to go towards a 16?

The 16 looks ideal, but I do not have the cash to buy another laptop.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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The customization goes further than just yes/no to the number pad. Looks like a whole "Input Module system" that could open up opportunities for different keyboard designs (DVORAK, various locales, maybe different switches?). I love this idea, excited to see what folks do with it. Makes me think of Apple's Touchbar nonsense -- why force a number pad, or a second touchscreen on folks who don't want one? Such a good it…

Framework should beg Sensel for a blank touch surface...which you could press a couple of macro keys to entirely transform the surface with. users print out a custom layout to guide their fingers.../dream

Agreed, I'd kill for a modern version of the TouchStream LP. Comfiest and quietest keyboard I've ever used, with no elbow strain from reaching for a mouse/trackpad. They even had a product that could replace a MacBook keyboard. [1]

That being said, the company was acquired by Apple and turned into the iPhone and iPod Touch. The keyboards were effectively museum pieces at that point. I wonder if the patent situation would allow for third parties to revisit the design. It'd be interesting to see what could be done with by borrowing ideas from the programmable keyboard community and mobile touch hardware.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FingerWorks

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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This is exactly what I did when the 12th gen came out. My original mainboard is now running our home NAS and NVR.

I'd love to learn more about how you used your mainboard for a nas. What did you house it in?

I'm not the parent, but they've announced they've partnered with Cooler Master to release a case [0]. A while back they released drawings so you can 3D print one [1].

[0] https://frame.work/products/cooler-master-mainboard-case [1] https://github.com/FrameworkComputer/Mainboard

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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This is exactly what I did when the 12th gen came out. My original mainboard is now running our home NAS and NVR.

I'd love to learn more about how you used your mainboard for a nas. What did you house it in?

I'm using this 5-bay USB 3.2 drive enclosure [1] and the official Framework 3d printed case [2] in polycarbonate ordered via Craftcloud (the Cooler Master case would have been both cheaper and easier!)

I also looked at TB4 disk enclosures, but the bandwidth was overkill for spinning rust hard disks. There's a lot you can do with 4 USB-C/TB4 ports. I also have a Coral USB stick connected for frigate.video inference and a 2.5Gbps USB NIC (waiting for better thunderbolt 10Gbps NICs to become available). One fun convergence is when I want a keyboard / display / mouse I can plug the mainboard server into the same thunderbolt dock I use for my laptop peripherals.

[1] https://sabrent.com/products/ds-sc5b

[2] https://github.com/FrameworkComputer/Mainboard/tree/main/Mec...

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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As petty as this may sound, I really don't like it when laptops arrange their modifier keys as Control-Fn-Super-Meta. My Macbook has the layout Fn-Control-Meta-Super, which makes Emacs very nice to use. Every time I use a "standard PC keyboard" or Windows laptop, I can barely use Emacs because it just feels uncomfortable having to stretch my pinky as far as possible just to hit a key. I know what some may be thinking…

You can swap them in a bios on Thinkpad (which is Fn-Ctrl-Super-Alt anyway), then it works everywhere. Maybe the Framework can too? Your keys will still lie to you, but I feel like this is a pretty minor thing to worry about.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Hey! I pre-ordered an AMD version as soon as the site would handle it, but I wasn't able to choose between the mattte and glossy display. Is there any way to get the matte display with the new AMD option?

The Matte display version is pre-installed on all 13th Gen Intel Core and AMD Ryzen 7040 Series Framework Laptops. If you do want a glossy display, it's available as a module in the Marketplace to swap in (or you can pick up an older 11th Gen, 12th Gen, or Chromebook Edition which also have the original display).

I understand the supply concerns, but in the future please consider a glossy display as default option (even if just in the DIY edition). It seems wasteful to have to buy matte display only to replace with a glossy one. A lot of people in the monitors community hate matte displays and actively avoid buying devices with them.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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"We’ve partnered with Cooler Master to create an awesome new way to re-use your Framework Laptop Mainboards: a transparent, small form factor case. This will be available this Spring for $39 USD." This is the way. More vendors should do that. A huge load of obsolete but perfectly working laptop mainboards could be repurposed to other uses. Need a small system to set up a service on a LAN but don't want to feed scalpe…

I mean, can't you just use the laptop? I see the value proposition that this has in the particular case of Framework where you update certain parts, but the vast majority of laptops cannot have any change beside the RAM (if you're lucky) and the storage (same). So in those situations, the best PC case is the one you already have: the laptop.

I have a cheap laptop with a broken case and a flaky screen. Repurposing it as a desktop pc with a small case like this would be really nice.
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