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Lab-Grown Meat Is Safe to Eat, FDA Says

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Re: Lab-Grown Meat Is Safe to Eat, FDA Says

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Post by replygirl »

LtWorf wrote: post #147
prometheus76 wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not being exposed to air, for one. That's why it's safe to eat a rare steak (where the surfaces exposed to air are cooked to kill bacteria) and why it's not safe to eat rare hamburger (where all the meat has been exposed to air through grinding the meat).

> That's why it's safe to eat a rare steak The USA department of agriculture begs to differ. https://ask.usda.gov/s/article/Is-a-rare-steak-safe-to-eat Personally I never place much trust in random comments on the internet.

USDA has been trying and failing for decades to make a visual aid that accurately communicates the balance of a healthy diet. and they ban foods that people in other countries have eaten for 1000 years (while allowing them for pets). they are both inaccurate and overly conservative with nutrition and health guidance

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kikokikokiko wrote: post #95
superkuh wrote: post #33

It will be animal cells differentiated into muscle tissues on collagen scaffolds initially. The technology comes from attempts to grow functional organs (ie, liver) that are biocompatible in the body serum proper. If there aren't health effects from transplantation within the animal type you can probably eat the animal tissues just fine. It's the same thing. It's meat. It's just without the animal suffering. And hope…

"And hopefully it'll eventually be cheaper than growing animals too." Just as simply planting a tree and letting the sun provide the energy for it's growth will always beat those "synthetic trees" people like to hype from time to time, I can expect to never see a synthetic process that is more cost effective to create "meat" than simply letting nature do it's thing. Down here in Brazil you basically give the animals…

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Re: Lab-Grown Meat Is Safe to Eat, FDA Says

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Post by adam_arthur »

seydor wrote: post #133
glitchc wrote: post #4

Look forward to lab-grown burgers and steaks!

Does it make economic sense to grow wheat, oil and sesame seeds in a lab? Let alone ketchup

Wheat has far less value per square meter. Haven't run the math, but generally the higher the value of the good, the more viable growing it indoors is.

Shouldn't need a very large warehouse to grow a meaningful amount of beef. Presumably the lifecycle/turnover on that square footage is much faster too

Re: Lab-Grown Meat Is Safe to Eat, FDA Says

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Post by givemeethekeys »

As someone who is perfectly content with the massive variety of non-meat food out there - discovering more all the time - it is amusing to see all the hoops people are jumping to make lab grown meat a reality.

Maybe in the not too distant future, meat from slaughter will be banned, lab-grown meat will be the only legal source, and then marketed as an essential source of nutrition by every outlet that stands to gain from the consumption of meat.

Sometimes the best way to not lose is to not play at all.

Re: Lab-Grown Meat Is Safe to Eat, FDA Says

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Post by allemagne »

ergocoder wrote: post #10

The safe thing to do for this kind of things is to wait for others to consume it in mass first. It is not like there is a pressure for you to eat lab grown meats.

So far us guinea pigs seem to be pretty safe from vague concerns around, say, GMOs. I'm pretty open to specific concerns about lab-grown meat, but until then I'm happy to take calculated risks on many things in life.

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Post by awillen »

wtetzner wrote: post #394
myshpa wrote: post #382

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If the world adopted a plant-based diet we would reduce global agricultural land use from 4 to 1 billion hectares https://ourworldindata.org/land-use-diets Half of the world’s habitable land is used for agriculture ... and 77% of it is used for livestock: meat and dairy https://ourworldindata.org/land-use More than three-quarters (77%) of global soy is fed to livestock for meat and dairy production. Most of the rest…

We could also just eat grassfed beef instead of feeding animals soy.

That would require even more land since a given amount of land can grow fewer calories of grass than soy.

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Post by BoorishBears »

virtualritz wrote: post #387
eloff wrote: post #291

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When this technology finally gets there, and I see no reason to think it won't eventually, it will change the world so dramatically. The amount of land and water we won't need to raise animals or food for animals it's staggering. The amount of meat the world consumes will double by the end of the century (will it? I made that up). As the world gets richer, people eat more meat. Combine that with a rising population a…

> As the world gets richer, people eat more meat. Living in central Berlin (Mitte), one of the most expensive parts of the city, it feels the opposite is happening. Everything here is vegan or vegetarian at least. Even a steak place next door to where I live has vegan plates. On that note: it made me sad that all the dramatic changes you listed omitted the suffering of animals.

That's because you're likely part of the disconnected 1%, even if you're nowhere near that relative to others in your country.

People think of robber barons twirling the mustaches when they picture the 1%, but for global topics, the 1% even includes people who are considered "poor" by western standards.

And, like the robber barons twirling mustaches people picture for their local 1%, you can't extrapolate any good data off of them.

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People in the west are so wealthy that choosing to be vegan has become a status symbol, but when you hear "world gets richer", you need to be picturing people who can't afford a choice.

Both my parents grew up in villages where beef was like a few-times-a-year luxury, and of course as their villages have gotten more and more modernized, newer generations can't even imagine such a thing.

Now their country has KFCs...

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Post by sph »

puma_ambit wrote: post #408

10-50 Years later: FDA Says Lab-Grown Meat is responsible for X,Y and Z... Asks consumers to switch to a more natural alternative.

You jest, but when there is big companies poised to make big bucks from fake meat, it is completely naive to assume they have our interests and those of the planets in mind. History has shown the opposite time and time again.

The family-owned organic farm I buy my groceries from isn't Unilever, Nestlé nor has venture capitals expecting it to turn a massive profit.

Call me a selfish asshole, but I will keep choosing organically grown food from living beings (meat or vegetables) for my health. Y'all can eat your lab burgers.

Re: Lab-Grown Meat Is Safe to Eat, FDA Says

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Post by reddit_clone »

robbomacrae wrote: post #317
ars wrote: post #300

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Only if it's cheaper. They said the same thing about plant based meat - and it hasn't because it's more expensive.

To add to the other points being made... meat is subsidized and doesn't include the cost of the externalities. It's hard to imagine that in the long run, plant based meat or lab grown meat will be more expensive than growing, feeding, and looking after animals.

Agreed. Lobbies won't let the current system go for a very long time.

If Tobacco industry can hang on, Meat industry is not going away any time soon. Also a change of this kind can come only gradually, if at all.

We can't just tell all the farmers to go and take a Python bootcamp.

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