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Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by alvarezbjm-hn »

crazygringo wrote: post #344
heavyset_go wrote: post #301

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can get a new Android phone for $20. The charging cables alone for an iPhone, which don't come with the phone, cost $19 each by themselves.

What are you talking about? No you can't. If you're talking about an unlocked smartphone that you can install apps on, there is absolutely no such thing as a new Android phone for $20 that any American consumer can buy. The Samsung Galaxy A03s is Samsung's cheapest, it's considered "ultra-budget", and it costs $160. The Moto G Pure, Motorola's cheapest, is also $160. (Edit in response to comments: yes if you buy a lo…

I am 100% sure parent meant $200, not $20.

Just for the sake of argument, there are brand new android go phones in amazon. So, if you need a phone you can install apps on, $50-$200 being the base price, you can consider $1000 a luxury.

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=android+phone&i=mobile&rh=n%3A707...

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by jacobr1 »

crazygringo wrote: post #344
heavyset_go wrote: post #301

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can get a new Android phone for $20. The charging cables alone for an iPhone, which don't come with the phone, cost $19 each by themselves.

What are you talking about? No you can't. If you're talking about an unlocked smartphone that you can install apps on, there is absolutely no such thing as a new Android phone for $20 that any American consumer can buy. The Samsung Galaxy A03s is Samsung's cheapest, it's considered "ultra-budget", and it costs $160. The Moto G Pure, Motorola's cheapest, is also $160. (Edit in response to comments: yes if you buy a lo…

On the other-hand, plenty of people will buy a locked phone direct from a carrier. The Moto G you mentioned only costs $35 from tracfone. You can't change carriers, but you still can install arbitrary apps.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by crazygringo »

alvarezbjm-hn wrote: post #401
crazygringo wrote: post #344

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are you talking about? No you can't. If you're talking about an unlocked smartphone that you can install apps on, there is absolutely no such thing as a new Android phone for $20 that any American consumer can buy. The Samsung Galaxy A03s is Samsung's cheapest, it's considered "ultra-budget", and it costs $160. The Moto G Pure, Motorola's cheapest, is also $160. (Edit in response to comments: yes if you buy a lo…

I am 100% sure parent meant $200, not $20. Just for the sake of argument, there are brand new android go phones in amazon. So, if you need a phone you can install apps on, $50-$200 being the base price, you can consider $1000 a luxury. https://www.amazon.com/s?k=android+phone&i=mobile&rh=n%3A707...

Seeing as they were directly comparing a $20 phone with a $19 cable implying they were the same price, it seems to me like they actually meant $20. ;)

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by pwinnski »

AustinDev wrote: post #175
eatsyourtacos wrote: post #116

I hate apple with a passion for not opening up iMessage, but here we are. That being said, I am getting my first iPhone in just a few days because I am sick of the 100000 choices between android phones that all suck in one way or another. I don't believe they will last more than a few years if my last samsung is any indication. And I don't give a crap about what android can do- I just want a phone that works. So I gu…

I remember when Steve Jobs said it would be an open protocol.

That was FaceTime, not iMessage, and FaceTime ran into patent issues which Apple lost in court, repeatedly, and so had to be reengineered in way that made it not work as an open protocol.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by kylehotchkiss »

garyfirestorm wrote: post #152
hsbauauvhabzb wrote: post #99

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$430 is a lot to some people.

Average yearly income in India 1875$ iPhoneSE for kids - 430$ I think it’s unobtainable for most of the people https://www.statista.com/statistics/802122/india-net-nationa...

iPhone SE in India isn't $430, it's $607 at today's exchange rate: https://www.apple.com/in/shop/buy-iphone/iphone-se/4.7-inch-... (still, EMI somewhat easily available)

20k-30k for Android phones seems to be the norm there according to the advertisements everywhere.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by sho_hn »

yamtaddle wrote: post #368
sho_hn wrote: post #62

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In iMessage, which seems to be a thing in the USA (I don't know of any other market where it's a dominant messaging system), non-iPhone users participating via SMS appear to iPhone users with a different (green) background color to their message bubbles.

Your own messages appear in a different color, not theirs. At least not on current iOS. It's so you know that the messages you're sending are going over MMS instead of iMessage, so zero features other than sending plain text to individual recipients will work well, if at all. It's like time traveling back to the late '00s with text-chat-groups inexplicably splintering mid-conversation, adding new participants screwin…

> Your own messages appear in a different color, not theirs. At least not on current iOS.

Thanks for the correction! I understood that wrong.

But it still ends up drawing attention to non-iPhone users if they make the iPhone user's message bubbles go green on their ends.

> I distinctly recall Google trying to do the exact same thing when I was an Android user, must have been over a decade ago

I have the same memory.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by [deleted] »

ghaff wrote: post #197
paganel wrote: post #131

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I find it strange how iMessage has become so important (for lack of a better word) in the States. I have had to use it for the last 2-3 months, as WhatsApp cannot be installed on my not-updated older iOS anymore, and I have to say that WhatsApp is way better at doing the messaging thing than iMessage. Granted, I'm in my early 40s and I honestly didn't know that there were different "bubble colours" when using iMessag…

Although in the States, most people don't use WhatsApp by default unless they regularly text overseas (which most don't). I have it installed but there is like one person who I very seldom use it with. Another person I use Facebook Messenger with. Work folks I often use Google Chat for. Everything else is SMS/iMessage and, as a non-teen, I absolutely don't care what color the bubble is (unless there's some cost impli…

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Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by alvarezbjm-hn »

idle_zealot wrote: post #299
jl6 wrote: post #237

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On the other hand, this seems like a teachable moment, where perhaps kids can be encouraged not to marginalize others based on trivial differences in messaging apps. The drumbeat of inclusivity is pretty loud these days so it shouldn’t come as too great a surprise that including their green bubble friends would be the decent thing to do. I don’t place much blame on Apple for completely stereotypically standard teenag…

It's not just a trivial difference in bubble color. SMS conversations in iMessage lose features. The social rejection is a result of the features lost when an Android user participates in a messaging group.

The social rejection is a result of teens being teens, as pointed out. Adults would use another more inclusive tool, like whatsapp, email, discord, rss, etc.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by swayvil »

TillE wrote: post #11
ajross wrote: post #4

It's just a line in the article, the data isn't provided. This is the source of the headline quote: > 87% of teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone; 31% of teens own an Apple Watch And sorry, but that's just laughably wrong. Even in my teen's upper middle class school of tech scions, the penetration of any kind of phone sits somewhere around 50%. And I don't think I've even seen a smart watc…

It's an actual survey from a company which does that kind of thing, which I take considerably more seriously than vague anecdotes.

Well I'm an actual company and according to my survey you're wrong.
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