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iOS 16 Available September 12th

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Re: iOS 16 Available September 12th

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Post by thiht »

faangiq wrote: post #357
JaneLovesDotNet wrote: post #246

Anyone surprised by the Island notch software/hardware design? I don't mean the idea of a pill shaped notch. But the fact they're pouring so much software resource into it (even building dev tools) when the shape/size of that cutout should in theory change in the future when technology allows for smaller (or non-existent) cutouts. They will either feel commited to that hardware design and stick to it longer than they…

They’ve committed to obviously bad choices before like the touchbar.

I loved the touchbar. The new MBP I received from my new company doesn't have one and I actually miss it :(

When you actually use it to customize your workflows it was really cool. For example I added a global screenshot button in mine. In iTerm I added buttons to split vertically and horizontally, and buttons to SSH on my most common machines. On VSCode I liked to be able to run in debug with a keyboard button.

I'd love a compromise with both the fn row, and customizable buttons, either physical buttons or a mini touchbar (or a full fledged touchbar above the fn row)

Re: iOS 16 Available September 12th

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Post by jevgeni »

taejavu wrote: post #276
Waterluvian wrote: post #193

Is anyone else anxious about updates? I used to be so pumped for them when I was a teen. They’d unlock a world of new opportunities. Now I just feel anxious that there’s change for change sake to justify the resourcing of the design teams and that they’ll make things I’m used to worse all for a bunch of features I’ll never use or want. I don’t want more features. There’s so many already and they’re really cluttering.…

Why don't you like the address bar at the bottom? Surely it's more convenient to reach for. Is it muscle memory, or more just a dislike of change?

I love the address bar at the bottom.

Re: iOS 16 Available September 12th

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Post by donpott »

Eric_WVGG wrote: post #77
yabones wrote: post #49

Well, looks like it's the end of the line for my 1st gen SE. It's been a good run. I'll miss you, little guy. Looks like my other options for a small phone are 12/13 mini or possibly the 2nd/3rd gen SE. But not nearly as compact as the 4" SE.

I just bought a 13 Mini about an hour ago (waiting for the $100 price drop)… don't get the 12 Mini, you're really gonna want that extra battery life

I'm in the same situation as you were. Has there been a price drop? It seems there wasn't one in my region...

Re: iOS 16 Available September 12th

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Post by thiht »

Waterluvian wrote: post #193

Is anyone else anxious about updates? I used to be so pumped for them when I was a teen. They’d unlock a world of new opportunities. Now I just feel anxious that there’s change for change sake to justify the resourcing of the design teams and that they’ll make things I’m used to worse all for a bunch of features I’ll never use or want. I don’t want more features. There’s so many already and they’re really cluttering.…

> Like when they moved the address bar to the bottom in Safari. Bad. Shame

Yeah I'd have to disagree on that. The bottom is the correct place for the address bar on a phone. It's where your thumb is.

Re: iOS 16 Available September 12th

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Post by makeitdouble »

quitit wrote: post #269
l72 wrote: post #98

Still no ability to have separate accounts on an ipad... I sort of understand that a phone is a single user OS, but the ipad most certainly should be a multi user OS.

Currently hardware-wise they're designed for a single user experience. E.g. the limit of face-ids in the secure enclave, or more trivially they don't come with a lot of storage to host multiple photo/music/app libraries without having to put every little thing in the cloud.

The pro line is well into the desktop class territory on any hardware requirement, be it CPU, memory, storage etc.

At this point, any feature that exists on their laptops is lacking on the iPad only by choice.

Re: iOS 16 Available September 12th

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Post by Hamuko »

dhritzkiv wrote: post #254
JaneLovesDotNet wrote: post #246

Anyone surprised by the Island notch software/hardware design? I don't mean the idea of a pill shaped notch. But the fact they're pouring so much software resource into it (even building dev tools) when the shape/size of that cutout should in theory change in the future when technology allows for smaller (or non-existent) cutouts. They will either feel commited to that hardware design and stick to it longer than they…

I haven't read the new developer documentation, but if it's like the notch of previous years, Apple will recommend that 3rd-party developers don't pay it any heed specifically, and instead rely on the safe area dimensions/constraints provided by the OS in order to control their layouts. For 3rd party developers to show information in the Island, that will be achieved through the Live Activities API, which is not spec…

Yeah, I didn't see anything about the Island that seemed to be API-specific to it. Music players will probably get into the Island by just adapting the normal Now Playing APIs that get your media information on the lockscreen, live updates get to the island by adapting the Live Activities API, and so on. Maybe there's some customization that you can do, but I imagine developers don't need to specifically code for it.

And since it's basically baked-in that iPhones will have a front-facing camera, and they don't seem eager to abandon Face ID, I don't see the Island disappearing anytime soon. And even if they get some fancy new tech that allows to hide everything behind the screen without massive compromises, it's still possible for the holepunch design to live on in the non-Pro models and later in the SE models (similar to how Touch ID still exists on the SE).

Re: iOS 16 Available September 12th

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Post by thiht »

robot9000 wrote: post #145

Huge! But the bigger surprise is that there's literally nothing in it that I care about despite being an iOS user. Also, multiple stops on Maps? That's Google maps 15 years ago.

As someone who tries to avoid Google products more and more, I'm glad they improve Apple Maps. I have zero Google app installed on my iPhone today, but Google Maps is the one I'm the most tempted to use occasionally. I use it in the browser instead but the experience sucks.

On my side I'm kinda excited about live notifications, it looks cool for food deliveries.

Re: iOS 16 Available September 12th

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Post by drexlspivey »

hahnchen wrote: post #352
toomuchtodo wrote: post #32

Passkeys gonna be fire. Goodbye password managers, credential stuffing, and phishing attacks! (photo deduplication is nice too btw, been a long time coming)

Someone correct me if I'm wrong. But, does WebAuthn really improve authentication? With WebAuthn, instead of a secret password, you store a secret key. Why not just use really long passwords behind password managers? You're using some software to save a secret in either case.

Some malware could steal your keys for example when you have your PM unlocked or snatch it from the clipboard but it’s impossible with hardware keys. It also won’t let you get phished but arguably PMs protect against that too.

Re: iOS 16 Available September 12th

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Post by rvz »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #32

Passkeys gonna be fire. Goodbye password managers, credential stuffing, and phishing attacks! (photo deduplication is nice too btw, been a long time coming)

Once again, reliant on the same Big Tech companies. If you think it is a good idea to hold your keys like this then you have never experienced lock in which is very easy to do for these companies.
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