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Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

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Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

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post #16

There is a legitimate problem with malware that hijacks all traffic via VPN. Maybe you should hear other side before making judgement!

> There is a legitimate problem with malware... This is a statement and argument that can and is used against any form of user control over their devices, user customization, or general computing.

"But security!" has been the "won't somebody please think of the children" of the technology world for a long time. The end goal, intentional or not, is the same: restricting freedoms (or, on a shorter term, ignore valid criticism).

Unfortunately, at least in the tech world it seems to be a great success. We now have walled gardens and unskippable updates. The next step, "trusted computing" (which is ultimately using a whitelist to forbid the usage of certain software), is already halfway here.

Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

#403
post #216

Earlier quoted context omitted.

95% of users have no idea what any of this is.

Developer wages would crash through the floor and all the way down to the centre of the Earth if ad blockers really took off without users also accepting micropayments or subscriptions for web services at the same time. Maybe we should be a little bit glad that the main thing keeping massive amounts of money in tech is accepted by users. The key thing that most people in tech don't appear to grok very easily is that…

A huge part of the reason society values those thing as practically zero is because they've nearly always been provided by companies for free.

If the ad-supported model fell apart, people would eventual change their understanding of the value of those services. They'd probably pay a decent amount for it.

But its a race to the bottom since someone will always offer ad-supported. It'll take an outside force (like ad-blocks by default or bans by governments) to actually kill off the ad-supported industry.

Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

#404

I categorically reject ads. I want them completely abolished. I will do everything that's in my power to get them out of my machines. If I had just a little bit more courage I would go out at night with cans of spray paint and deface billboards.

defacing billboards is more fun and easier than you expect

Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

#405

Firefox for Android with ublock origin makes my mobile web browsing sane again. Highly recommended.

I just benchmarked chrome, edge, and Firefox on my Google pixel and surprisingly Firefox opens quickest. It's kind of impressive that Firefox beat the chrome despite not being the native browser on Android.

Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

#406

I use DNS66, installed from F-droid. Play Store has more and more restrictions each month...but it may be a good thing? because people is now discovering the alternate stores and the advantages of them.

why not just use private dns from nextdns

Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

#407

Firefox for Android with ublock origin makes my mobile web browsing sane again. Highly recommended.

The experience is so awful when I browse on my iPad, instead of my Android phone with Firefox+UBlock. I really don't understand how most people can stand to browse with all the ads. The modern web is so much worse than the pop up ads of the old web.

I've been using NextDNS on my iDevices and generally don't see any issues.

Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

#408
post #58

I use adaway which simply replace the /etc/hosts file, but requires root. I consider a phone a paperweight if I cannot have root on it, but I realize this might be different for other users.

What are you going to do once Google makes TEE-based bootloader unlock checking a mandatory part of SafetyNet? Right now, I'm in the same camp as you, and I don't have a good answer to that myself.

I'll likely just not use banking software that requires safetynet.

If that means I need to switch banks, that's OK.

Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

#409
Thank you for all the NextDNS recommendations. I’ve been looking for something to help block adds that isn’t a VPN on iOS.

Just curious what do folks think of AdGuard. I’ve seen that come up on Reddit but looking at their website it doesn’t look trustworthy and I couldn’t find info about what they actually track.

Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

#410

I categorically reject ads. I want them completely abolished. I will do everything that's in my power to get them out of my machines. If I had just a little bit more courage I would go out at night with cans of spray paint and deface billboards.

"I will do everything that's in my power" Will you pay money for the content you consume?

Incidentally, yes. I get to choose what my computer displays to me and that's non-negotiable however. If that breaks your business model that is 100% a you problem.
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