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Re: Is this the end of social networking?

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Post by Falkon1313 »

holoduke wrote: post #394
agileAlligator wrote: post #362

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The average person has about 150 people they care about. 100 friends is par for the course imo

150? What about 5-10? I don't believe you can have 150 people you really care for.

There are actual close friends, and then there are people you know or care about to some degree. Dunbar's number (somewhere between 100 and 250) describes the latter.

That may include extended family, neighbors, coworkers, your acquaintances from hobbies/bar/church/whatever. They're not all close friends or immediate family, but still people that you sometimes interact with, and might want to contact.

Re: Is this the end of social networking?

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Post by intense122 »

aczerepinski wrote: post #156

I want to see more niche social networks that are only for one thing. I actually really like Strava which is for workouts only. There’s no way to share pictures of inspirational text. I’ve never seen anyone abuse the platform by sharing a run that is actually 0.1 miles plus a rant about Fox News or anything like that. If I were independently wealthy I’d spend my time building a newsfeed for musicians to share music t…

I wouldn't even mind if there were some ads on Strava. Like I've started subscribing with intention to support also this platform. I really like how there are similar-minded people, sharing their activities - photos, I can relax visiting this app. I think Strava will grow, so many features they can add for outdoors activities and so on. No politics, toxic content, great experience.

On the other side, there are social apps which just want me to spend as much time as I can there.

Re: Is this the end of social networking?

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Post by intense122 »

I miss how it's not more about connecting me with other people. Rather forcing people content they could engage. UX which main purpose is to keep users spend more time on the platform. For example, I love Strava, there are similar-minded people sharing their photos, activities that I can easily follow and get new ideas for trips and so on. Chronological feed without any special algorithm. Like hey, give me good search options and I can search content for my own.

Re: Is this the end of social networking?

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Post by Falkon1313 »

safety1st wrote: post #325
drusepth wrote: post #247

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I wonder where the split is, and for what demographics this is/isn't true for. It's been true for at least a few years for my (small) circle and I. I also wonder if this is a (temporary) side effect of larger societal issues. It certainly feels like all of my old relationships are trending towards hyperpolitical interactions (even ones where we agree on most topics) and/or transactional/performative obligations. In t…

The risk of focusing on more transient relationships is that in the long run you won't reap the benefits of compounding interest, which is arguably where all the best stuff in life comes from: https://nav.al/long-term

An interesting concept, but towards the end they chop the very foundation right out from under their argument with a brief rant about socialists with guns and knives wanting pie.

Someone who is antisocial, and just in it for their own profit would say exactly that, and that's exactly the type of person you don't want long-term relationships with.

Re: Is this the end of social networking?

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Post by MaxBarraclough »

agileAlligator wrote: post #362
watwut wrote: post #340

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How is over 100 friends minimal?

The average person has about 150 people they care about. 100 friends is par for the course imo

Do you have a source for that? From a quick search:

[0] indicates the average number of friends is roughly 9

[1] indicates the number is roughly 5

[2] indicates the number is roughly 16

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[0] https://news.gallup.com/poll/10891/americans-satisfied-numbe...

[1] https://www.americansurveycenter.org/research/the-state-of-a...

[2] https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/friends-adults-amer...

Re: Is this the end of social networking?

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Post by cal85 »

jmyeet wrote: post #239
dont__panic wrote: post #17

> [TikTok]'s addiction-based advertising machine is probably close to the theoretical maximum of how many advertisements one can pour down somebody’s throat. Well put. It's interesting that we pivoted in my adult lifetime from: 1. Myspace's emphasis on sharing things on your own webpage, essentially a hosted blog 2. Facebook's evolution from "hosted blog" to "friend update aggregator" to "chat client" to "friend upda…

> If we're lucky, that means a federated, open, mostly-ad-and-suggestion-free open source social media ... It's never going to happen. Federation is a solution to a problem no one actually cares about. Obviously "no one" here is somewhat hyperbolic but so few people actaully care about this you may as well round it to zero. We haven't had an at-scale federated network since POTS (and, by extension, SMS). That's a his…

> Federation is a solution to a problem no one actually cares about. Obviously "no one" here is somewhat hyperbolic but so few people actaully care about this you may as well round it to zero.

I think this conflates two things: the number of people who are familiar with a problem as a discussion topic (yes, that’s very niche in this case), and the number of people who are affected by a problem and might be receptive to a solution to it if one was available and understandable to them.

Re: Is this the end of social networking?

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Post by Falkon1313 »

techdragon wrote: post #269
tepitoperrito wrote: post #160

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Look at monica crm https://github.com/monicahq/monica . I've yet to offer to start hosting it for people, but that could be a neat conversation piece for changing the tides there.

I was looking into using this recently, but the project seems to be somewhat stalled. It’s gone from regular monthly releases, up to February this year, to nothing for months, not a good sign for something I’m considering adopting to maintain an important part of my life. Between this and some syncing issues that didn’t yet have fixes, I dropped it before putting in the effort to get fully on board and I still need t…

Stalled or relatively stable? If the software changed out from under you every single day with daily updates, would that make it more worthy of considering adopting for long-term use? Or would you still think it was not a good sign because you hadn't gotten an update in the last few hours? If they did hourly releases, would you still look askance at it because it had been 6 minutes since the last release?

People's ideas of update cadence are interesting. I find it really odd that people want to have to run frequent updates and want to use unstable software for the important things nowadays. For important things, I prefer stuff that'll still run and work the same in 20 years.

Re: Is this the end of social networking?

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Post by vidarh »

s1artibartfast wrote: post #212
lubesGordi wrote: post #196

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In my view this shift is happening because of social media. The social media short cut to having friends turned out to not really work, and now people are trying to figure out how to have friends again. It's the same with dating.

Yeah, it seems like people are doubling down on a losing strategy. The real solution is usually involves going outside your front door and meet people. The same is true with dating.

> The same is true with dating

Over the last 25 years, all but one of the people I've dated, have been people I met online, including the mother of my son. Most of them have been people who I'd never have crossed paths with if it wasn't for meeting them online.

Under no circumstance do I want to go back to the horror of relying on meeting people offline, without being able to quickly filter out people I'm not compatible with first.

Re: Is this the end of social networking?

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Post by Eupraxias »

s1artibartfast wrote: post #294
bombcar wrote: post #289

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And meeting people unlike yourself in at least some ways - social media is designed to help you find identical clones of yourself.

I don't think most people actually get to know like minded individuals on social media. They just flock together on specific topics and don't associate where they disagree. When you meet people in the real world, chances are you are unlike in some ways by default. People just don't express their differences in superficial context. You don't find the differences unless you ask and listen. At least that's been my exper…

Doesn't social media replace meat-space friendships?

Is there a species of 'Tinder'... for finding friends?

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