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Re: The SQLite Code of Ethics

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Post by CRConrad » Wed, Jun 29, 2022, 8:59 AM UTC

meibo wrote: post #39

no_butterscotch wrote: post #36

The fact that repositories even have "codes of conduct" is Orwellian on one hand and a sign of idiocracy on the other.

"We (the maintainers) don't want to work with you if you do/believe X" seems quite sane to me, it's their choice after all. If you don't like it, fork it or move along. Code of conducts are supposed to regulate how contributors to the project interact. Especially nowadays, where projects can come with a significant social aspect/dynamic, this becomes important.

> Code of conducts

Codes of conduct.

Re: The SQLite Code of Ethics

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Post by CRConrad » Thu, Jun 30, 2022, 6:27 AM UTC

diegoholiveira wrote: post #127

iasay wrote: post #66

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I think you entirely managed to miss the point there. People don't tell you they lost their faith. They just stop following their code of ethics that was bound to it. I trust a faceless corporation over this attitude.

> People don't tell you they lost their faith. They just stop following their code of ethics that was bound to it. Not sure if this is true. Most Western values came from Christianity, even though the society today is not as religious as it was in the past.

> Most Western values came from Christianity, even though the society today is not as religious as it was in the past.

I think it's the other way around: Like with many holidays, Christianity usurped previosly existing ethics and claimed them as its own. It's not as if there were no ethics in the years we write "BC[E]" after.

Re: The SQLite Code of Ethics

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Post by CRConrad » Thu, Jun 30, 2022, 6:28 AM UTC

threatofrain wrote: post #129

iasay wrote: post #125

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The corporation is more likely to be accountable from experience.

It is power which cannot be held accountable, regardless of who holds it. Depending on character means you are depending on self accountability, the most wishful of all forms of accountability. Self accountability is for weight loss.

> Self accountability is for weight loss.

Medication works better.

Re: The SQLite Code of Ethics

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Post by CRConrad » Thu, Jun 30, 2022, 6:37 AM UTC

KMag wrote: post #396

CRConrad wrote: post #389

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> ... the authoritarianism [of the Nazis] where you were either their kind of socialist ... They were no kind of socialist.

It was ethnostate socialism. It was a command economy where industry was at the service of the people, but they had a perverse idea of who their people were and who they weren't. It really was a left-wing economic model with extreme right-wing social policy, plus lots of genocide.

> It really was a left-wing economic model with extreme right-wing social policy, plus lots of genocide.

So it was a right-wing political model (with lots of genocide) that happened to have a somewhat left-wing economic model.

In economics, economics ranks above politics, but in politics, politics ranks above economics. And Nazism was (is) a political ideology, not a school of economics.

Re: The SQLite Code of Ethics

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Post by eimrine » Sat, Jul 02, 2022, 9:36 AM UTC

That much concerning on the person of religion creates nothing except war. It is like when you are claiming in license that your sw can't be used for evil and get surprised that your sw is not compatible with free licenses.

Re: The SQLite Code of Ethics

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Post by pvillano » Sun, Jul 03, 2022, 4:59 AM UTC

ThrowawayR2 wrote: post #102

wyager wrote: post #40

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If software engineering was available as a monastic vocation, we'd probably have a lot of significantly higher-quality software available. I would much rather use something written by a stylite with an esolang compiler than shat out by 100 poorly-coordinated javascript devs at MEGACORP.

I dunno about monastic programming getting a lot of takers. Don't forget that there's usually a vow of poverty involved; fully loaded Macbook Pros or decked out 16 core Threadripper workstations are not part of the picture.

Some software can be written on a raspberry pi. Truly accessible software should be able to run on anything, for example, government web sites. Someone on here developed a site that a homeless person was able to submit a form using a PSP.

Re: The SQLite Code of Ethics

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Jul 06, 2022, 6:25 PM UTC

rebeccaskinner wrote: post #356

joannanewsom wrote: post #319

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I have read it many times. I really like it, which is why I quoted it. I also think moderating communities is a hard problem and I don't think private forums should be open to all forms of speech. In fact I only read forums which are heavily moderated. What I disagree with is your statement that "...when people complain about lack of a diversity of thought/opinion, it’s almost always a complaint that they can’t be a…

> Its easy to think you're right when you assume the other side is racist. The crux of my experience is that when the thing people disagree with you on _isn’t_ racist/homophobic/misogynistic/etc. then they tend to directly name and openly discuss the subject of their disagreement. The general and innocuous sounding term “diversity of thought” tends to get brought out when the opinions themselves are one of those opin…

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Re: The SQLite Code of Ethics

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Jul 06, 2022, 6:29 PM UTC

rebeccaskinner wrote: post #308

toomim wrote: post #304

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That's not my experience at all.

What experiences do you have to the contrary? I’ve moderated a few community spaces and this has been the way it’s gone every single time it’s come up for me.

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