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well, most are earning hundreds of $1000 a year, so their expectations and concerns must be different
>most are earning hundreds of $1000 a year Is that really the case? Anecdotally I'm earning 50k in EU.
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Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?
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#402Emacs has a plug-in.
Slightly off topic but.. couldn’t resist
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#403Earlier quoted context omitted.
well, most are earning hundreds of $1000 a year, so their expectations and concerns must be different
>most are earning hundreds of $1000 a year Is that really the case? Anecdotally I'm earning 50k in EU.
There's a previous post/survey about where HN readers are located. A large amount are in California (me included). The Bay Area in particular does pay > $100k for most tech jobs. That said, taxes are so high and real estate here is so expensive that it's really hard to get a place you own.
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#404>Dear Spotify, can we just get table of songs?
No, you can't. This is a for-profit service, and a table of songs interferes with their ability to choose what you listen to, and prefer certain artists or songs over others. I would not expect a high-quality music library interface from any cloud provider, because the intent is to stream you the things they prefer, and not empower you.
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#405I agree, spotifys ux is terrible. Nowadays though I dont notice it as much, probably because i use it every day. But I have complaints.
Ive mentioned it before but their mobile design sucks. I use it a lot in my car, so usually ill keep the playback screen open amd just swipe when I need to change songs, simple and probably safe. But if I swipe ever so slightly upward, it opens the lyrics function, so I have to look down, see what happened, swipe, then get back to driving. I get im not using it the way it is "supposed" to be used, but its an akward design choice anyways. When are the lyrics that on the fly important, and even when im looking at the screen I still mess it up.
That and the issues ive been having with the desktop app. Maybe its just my hardware but it never seems to just open om the first try, I usually have to close, then reopen it.
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> I didn't discover a single new artist through it. That's surprising. I've never used Spotify for this, but 10+ years ago used Pandora for that purpose. I was overjoyed with the new artists I learned about.
It’s not surprising to me that someone who very clearly hates Spotify for ideological reasons doesn’t have a good experience when using it. Spotify is amazing for discovery, they’re holding it wrong.
someone who very clearly hates Spotify for ideological reasons
Why would you say that? It's a pretty harsh dig, and it's not justified. I tried Spotify and didn't like it. I never said I hated it. I don't like it because I weight its trade-offs differently than you. I mean, have YOU tried the alternative I've suggested? If not, is it because of your ideology?
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#407Just a side note:
Iirc Spotify does not use Electron - it uses the Chromium embedded Framework. It is kinda the same as electron (it gives you an Browser) but instead of JavaScript you have to use C++ (or a wrapper around the library in you favourite language) to implement the Backend side of the app
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#408This is a big frustration of mine, too. The other is that Spotify is extremely biased towards playlist listening and makes browsing and listening to a library of albums really painful. The good news is that Spotify's SDK and API are actually powerful enough that you can build up an entire alternative interface, which is actually what I recently started doing: https://i.imgur.com/ar7VrYy.png . It's still work in progr…
FWIW, I prefer playlists to albums. Way back I used to make mix tapes, then burn my own mixed CDs. I love the variety in a playlist, and I can pick just the songs I like.
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#409Amazon's Kindle app is an even bigger offender in this category. It shows your library as a 4 x 4 grid of tiny cover thumbnail on your phone, so there is no hope whatsoever of reading a title. So you click one, and what does it do? It downloads the whole book then drops you in at whatever page you last read, then hides the book title and author. Unless you can recognize the cover photo (which changes to match the lat…
When browsing games on the Xbox it’s the same way — just a grid of cover art in smallish tiles. No text.
Finding what I want can be very difficult if the text isn’t clearly visible in the cover art or if it’s not art I’m very familiar with.
Even the fact that it’s sorted A-Z doesn’t help because it often sorts titles starting with “The” under “T”. Sigh.
UI designers: just give me a list view option. Please.
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#410Spotify's UI is a case study of the negative impact of assigning single screens to single teams, designers and managers. There is no cohesive vision. The useful functionality is all obscured by esthetics. I am perpetually annoyed at how poor spotify is at it's basic purpose. They have leaned way too far into recommendation systems and over designed layout. 99% of the time, I know what I want to listen to. Spotify's U…
I might be having rose tinted spectacles but I remember when Spotify first launched in the UK, maybe 2010. The app was _screaming fast_ in comparison to iTunes at the time, and I think it had a similar interface to itunes as well (although could be misremembering) with a table-like layout [1] I really don't understand what happened between then and now, it was really a big deal at the time where the UI was snappy and…
It's no longer a native app, it was rewritten in 2015 to be non-native. It's the same story everywhere, they're using Electron (or similar) so they can maintain one codebase for everything written in HTML/CSS/JS.