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Re: Reasons to ditch Chrome and use Firefox

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Post by sfink »

ravenstine wrote: post #366
rsync wrote: post #330

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"FireFox Containers are a killer feature for me ..." They are a killer idea but their implementation is disappointing. In no particular order ... - You can't clear history for a particular container space [1] - Containers are only tabs - so you can't, for instance, create a window and have all future tabs created in that window inherit that container - No "private" (or "burner") container that saves nothing outside o…

Though I absolutely agree that the implementation is disappointing, most concerns about history pretty much disappear if you disable history globally. Having lived without history in my browser for years now, I ponder whether that should be the default because I haven't missed it one bit. > Containers are only tabs - so you can't, for instance, create a window and have all future tabs created in that window inherit t…

In my opinion, history access is a major advantage of Firefox over Chrome. There are many sites that I don't bother to bookmark because I know typing a substring into the location bar will bring it up as a suggestion faster than I would be able to choose it from a bookmark menu. Plus, it displays a bunch of related URLs which are surprisingly often useful.

I definitely would not want to default to disabling it. It's my browser, and letting it remember where I've been enables it to be much more useful to me.

Re: Reasons to ditch Chrome and use Firefox

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Post by sfink »

neogodless wrote: post #179
kristiandupont wrote: post #64

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> I'm starting to see broken sites What are some examples of this? I keep seeing this complaint and I keep asking for examples but I always get "just various sites"-like answers. FF is my primary browser and I am not seeing it. I am genuinely curious as to whether it is starting to fall behind but I can recall maybe two or three instances the past couple of years where I opened a site in Brave to see if it worked the…

HomeDepot.com often won't let me add things to cart. The past couple months it has been working again, but there were a few months where I couldn't. This morning, I couldn't buy a key off cdkeys.com - tried two totally different methods, email addresses, credit cards. Didn't try a second browser yet but I'm not sure I am that persistent... A news site, I think the New Yorker, would only show the first two paragraphs…

It's tricky, because now that Firefox is a (small) minority browser I often assume any breakage is Firefox-specific. But at least 80% of the time, when I retry something in Chrome, it's still broken. I usually don't, mentally file it as "broken in Firefox", and decide I don't need to use that site for now anyway. So my estimation of Firefox-specific breakage is probably much higher than the reality. A lot of the web is just plain broken, for all browsers, much of the time.

The one major category of real problems I run into are related to captchas.

Re: Reasons to ditch Chrome and use Firefox

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Post by brynjolf »

kristiandupont wrote: post #64
sph wrote: post #30

I honestly want to ditch Firefox and try a Chromium browser for a minute [1], but I'm stuck on Firefox because it's the only one with a killer feature: send a tab to/from iOS and my Linux desktop. I skip Chrome and Edge for privacy reasons, Brave have a crappy and buggy sync feature that I don't know what OSes it supports, but not my combination. Can't send tabs with them. Vivaldi doesn't have an iOS port. Impossible…

> I'm starting to see broken sites What are some examples of this? I keep seeing this complaint and I keep asking for examples but I always get "just various sites"-like answers. FF is my primary browser and I am not seeing it. I am genuinely curious as to whether it is starting to fall behind but I can recall maybe two or three instances the past couple of years where I opened a site in Brave to see if it worked the…

Twitch has been broken for the entire pandemic and will not be ever improved at this point. I gave up and just went with Chrome for anything media related. Mozilla has stopped caring and so I have.

Re: Reasons to ditch Chrome and use Firefox

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Post by evulhotdog »

eliaspro wrote: post #178
hnlmorg wrote: post #45

FireFox Containers are a killer feature for me. It allows you to run sandboxed sessions. So you can ostensibly make every site a private tab by default but have a small few sites persistent. Eg I’ll have a work group with GitHub, Okta, etc in it so I only need to log in once a day. But random websites cannot track me between sites. Couple that with DNS blocking of trackers and ads, and the web is actually a lot more…

A crucial feature which is missing for me in containers is the ability to limit AddOns to specific containers. My employer's org deploys a Microsoft SSO AddOn which re-uses the OS-level identity to auto-login to Microsoft/Office365/Azure and causes me quite some headaches when dealing with my customers' logins, which are usually in separate containers. I switched to FF profiles for those use-cases for now, but it's f…

This is one of the reasons I’m stuck in the Chrome world. Having separate windows for different profiles and having MacOS open a link from another app in the window your last had focus of is so incredibly convenient. But having a personal and work password manager is something I couldn’t overcome in Firefox. Especially with the Firefox profiles being so archaic and painful to use.

Re: Reasons to ditch Chrome and use Firefox

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Post by lol768 »

neogodless wrote: post #394
lol768 wrote: post #248

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> HomeDepot.com often won't let me add things to cart. The past couple months it has been working again, but there were a few months where I couldn't. I checked for webcompat issues matching this description and couldn't find anyone reporting that adding items to the cart didn't work. I attempted to reproduce the issue myself, but HomeDepot block visitors from my location. > This morning, I couldn't buy a key off cdk…

Appreciate the effort, but you're wrong. Just to be sure I went back again today. Still could not purchase Horizon Zero Dawn. The error in the console was "No recaptcha clients exist." I then went to Edge, and I able able to successfully make the purchase. I'm a Firefox user. I'm a fan. But to pretend that there aren't sites that test in Chromium and call it a day isn't reality.

> Appreciate the effort, but you're wrong.

I mean, I have the game code right in front of me, ready to redeem.

> Just to be sure I went back again today. Still could not purchase Horizon Zero Dawn. The error in the console was "No recaptcha clients exist."

Still can't reproduce with this item - have you tried it in a fresh profile?

Re: Reasons to ditch Chrome and use Firefox

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Post by lol768 »

IshKebab wrote: post #353
lol768 wrote: post #248

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> HomeDepot.com often won't let me add things to cart. The past couple months it has been working again, but there were a few months where I couldn't. I checked for webcompat issues matching this description and couldn't find anyone reporting that adding items to the cart didn't work. I attempted to reproduce the issue myself, but HomeDepot block visitors from my location. > This morning, I couldn't buy a key off cdk…

> I'm not saying you've not experienced these issues It really sounds like you are. I hate these "Well did you report it? I can't reproduce it. Did you rebuild in debug mode and check the logs? Did you learn C++ and fix it?" responses. It's open source victim blaming.

> It really sounds like you are.

Which is obviously why I explicitly said I wasn't!

> I hate these "Well did you report it? I can't reproduce it."

How do you expect progress to be made if we can't precisely discuss browser issues & how to reproduce them in a way that enables them to be investigated and fixed?

For all we know at the minute, the OP has an extension installed that's causing all this.

> "Did you rebuild in debug mode and check the logs? Did you learn C++ and fix it?"

Because that's totally what I asked :eyeroll:

Re: Reasons to ditch Chrome and use Firefox

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Post by BerislavLopac »

skrowl wrote: post #344
BerislavLopac wrote: post #315

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Uh, I believe that Brave is based on Chromium, not Firefox...

This is incorrect. Libre Wolf is a Firefox fork. On Android, look at Mull until Libre Wolf is available there. On iOS, lol, you get Safari or skinned Safari due to Apple's app store rules.

What does Libre Wolf have to do with Brave?
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