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Teen mental health is plummeting and social media is a major contributing cause [pdf]

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Post by bowsamic »

fercircularbuf wrote: post #282
crate_barre wrote: post #111

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How do you differentiate what you are saying versus what people have always said about reading comic books all day, or playing video games all day, watching tv, listening to certain music, spending all your time on the internet, etc? Life is boring as fuck. It really is. It takes a lot to keep a human captivated.

Life is what you make of it. Personally, since I've become an adult, I couldn't tell you the last time I remember experiencing boredom. And I have deliberately disconnected myself as much as I can. My phone is always on silent mode, and I've turned off notifications for every app except text messaging and calling. I deleted my last social media account a few years ago, and I try to the best of my ability to use my co…

> Even if you spent the entire day sitting in front of a blank wall, there are literally endless things you could think about and explore.

Have you actually tried this? As a Soto Zen practitioner, I can tell you it's definitely not true

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Post by refurb »

watwut wrote: post #389
refurb wrote: post #353

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1950's - Korean war (either boomer or their parents), Berlin wall 1960's - Vietnam War draft, terrorist bombings in the US, race riots, Cuba missile crisis, ramping up the cold war 1970's - Oil embargo, massive (stag)-flation, "general malaise" 1980's - Recession, airline hijackings, multiple mid-East wars 1990's - Gulf war, another recession, leading up to massive tech bubble and crash If you want to be stressed and…

And here, you assume everyone was affected by all of those ... which is unlikely. For overwhelming majority of people, multiple of these are happening in distant places and don't affect them all that much.

Riots? Recessions? Threat of nuclear war? Threat of being drafted?

You’re kidding right? For someone growing up during that time those threats are as severe or more than those today.

Re: Teen mental health is plummeting and social media is a major contributing cause [pdf]

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Post by ClumsyPilot »

pmlnr wrote: post #364
Cthulhu_ wrote: post #323

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I don't believe the social medias are that much different from what preceding generations were exposed to; TV, magazines, movies, etc all showed more idealized lifestyles. The one difference I will point out though, is that with social media it becomes a lot more attainable to become like that. There's complete randoms that became celebrities through social media - and they don't even need to be conventionally attrac…

> I don't believe the social medias are that much different from what preceding generations were exposed to; TV, magazines, movies, etc all showed more idealized lifestyles. It is: TV was never meant to make you believe it's real or that someone's life is actually like that. "Reality" TV was always deliberately focused on drama.

'TV was never meant to make you believe it's real'

'Reality TV' is a thing

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Post by gverrilla »

RappingBoomer wrote: post #330

social media is replacing the traditional ways of communicating ideas (which have been tv, radio, newspapers, and school curriculum & textbooks)...but now the elites cannot really control social media, as much as they want to control social media and as much as they try to control social media...they cannot..... and control of what goes into young minds is THE most important commodity for elites...shaping young minds…

"The dominant ideology is the ideology of the dominant class" Karl Marx

The "elite" is very much descentralized and unconscious/semi-conscious.

There's absolutely zero risk for the power structures on current social media: ideology is 100% ok: banks are fine, scam and fraud is rampant, people are surely working (some of them have their main goal in life to progress in a carreer in a big company), people are surely studying (academia is the brain of the elite), people are still bragging against elites with near-zero effect and then when they get older finally bowing their heads and accepting "reality", religion is fine, harry potter is awesome etc etc.. Not to mention social media itself is owned by the elite and has some important functions - which are working perfectly fine.

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Post by spaniard89277 »

maeln wrote: post #258
moonchrome wrote: post #196

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You think teenagers are thinking about pensions... If they are they are probably already having mental issues because that's not something someone pre 20s should be concerned about. People in this thread need to stop projecting their problems and worldviews as universal social issues.

Idk but in France, when I was still a teenager, it was not that uncommon to talk/joke about the fact that we will never be able to retire. In high school, most of my classmate already started to have a political conscience and where thinking about this kind of stuff. Same with the environment. We already had social media at the time (mostly facebook) and yes, I won't deny that there was already something anxious abou…

This is also the case for Spain. Since I was a teenager (also in my 30s) it was a pretty common theme. Not only pensions, but pretty much everything is a scheme where yougnsters are doomed no matter what.

I remember my history teacher telling us about it and people saying they knew, and they also knew that they couldn't change it unless boomers were on board, which they weren't at the time, and definitely still in the same position.

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Post by pydry »

Shared404 wrote: post #211
moonchrome wrote: post #196

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You think teenagers are thinking about pensions... If they are they are probably already having mental issues because that's not something someone pre 20s should be concerned about. People in this thread need to stop projecting their problems and worldviews as universal social issues.

Eh, as a 20 year old I've been told my whole life that I'll be paying for social security but never see the money. Same for most of my peers.

This is part of the effort to kill it. If enough people believe it is a ponzi scheme, unsustainable, etc. then the political impetus to either privatize or get rid of it can be mustered.

Social security is very popular among the working classes (especially retired ofc) and deeply unpopular among the upper classes who see it as a tax burden on them that makes their workers lazy.

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Post by ClumsyPilot »

peoplefromibiza wrote: post #380
mmarq wrote: post #347

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What about kids who didn’t have a yard where they could play? Those whose parents lost their jobs? Those that have been evicted because their parents could not pay ever increasing rents? Besides, living in an economy that moves from recession to recession has an impact on the mental health of their parents, especially in economies with little or non-existent safety nets (see UK and US), and I’d be very surprised if t…

> What about kids who didn’t have a yard where they could play? > Those whose parents lost their jobs? If you acknowledge that, you should also acknowledge that heir only window to the outside World was a screen where some a*hole from Dubai whose only purpose was selling themselves and the things they were dressing to their "followers" for money, was saying all day that "we're gonna be fine" and then we didn't, "we a…

'Compare that to my father born in 1941'

I am sorry but the idea that 'bad old days had great mental health is a meme.

Do we have any evidence? Was anyone even counting who is depressed and who isn't? What about other mental issues and traumas? They didnt exactly have loads of psycologists avaliable.

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Post by whywhywhywhy »

graeme wrote: post #134
AbrahamParangi wrote: post #98

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Consider the possibility that this perspective might be less a reflection of reality and more a reflection of the media environment.

A lot of that list is pure fact: Multiple major recessions —> 2008 was biggest since 1929. Dunno about multiple a global pandemic —> this happened and is still happening rising inflation —> objectively true. Though I suspect the oncoming recession will quash it as in 2008 housing and education getting more expensive by the day —> huge house and education price increases in past decade, far outstripping inflation pros…

>climate that will be unlivable in a few decades

These absurd scaremongering predictions do more harm for the climate change movement than good. If you’re over 30 you’ve already lived through this threats twice and it’s beginning to get tiresome. These exaggerated doomsday predictions just give ammunition to deniers because you never set them far enough in the future it’s always “just 20 more years guys…”

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Post by nicbou »

Longhanks wrote: post #298
paxys wrote: post #68

Social media definitely amplifies it, but consider the economic and social environment that teenagers have lived through their entire lives. Multiple major recessions, a global pandemic, rising inflation, housing and education getting more expensive by the day, prospect of a mountain of debt right after graduation, climate that will be unlivable in a few decades, political extremism becoming the norm, and massive gov…

I grew up in Germany, so I was told stories of my grandfather, who lived through an entire world war, his home, home town, home country being entirely destroyed, being denied the return to his home since it was annexed and now behind the iron curtain, civilians he knew being murdered, pieces of butter being the best currency available, the nonexistence of any infrastructure such as roads, the very definition of polit…

These events also brought an unprecedented wave of mass suicide in Germany.

Suicide in the GDR is a much more complex topic. Here is an excellent article about it: https://blogs.ucl.ac.uk/ssees/2014/11/27/the-death-of-others...

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