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but don’t want you to bounce right at registration. Instead, they end up filling their database with countless unused accounts created by those who gave up?

Space in databases is essentially free.

... and they can say to investors "we have N million accounts".

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Honestly? It's because their ads are trash. I know lots of marketing people and they all stay away from using them. Say what you will about Facebook and Instagram, their ads are better overall. There's been several times an Instagram ad showed up in my feed, and I said shut up and take my money. Nothing like that has ever happened on Twitter for me.

This. Twitter ads are horrible.

I never ever get an actually good ad on Twitter.

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So I never created a Twitter account. Over the years, there are a few people that I liked to read their thoughts on Twitter, so I'd manually go to their wall and read occasionally. They're all verified. Over time, it became cumbersome to continue doing this and I thought I'd give in and create an account (on the website) so that these people were all easy to access from a single point. So I did, and went and immediat…

SAME exact scenario here! Twitter is a pile but its doing a good job doing away with traditional media companies so i hope it doesnt collapse just yet.

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> my account locked up and said there was "suspicious activity" and if I wanted to continue I needed to supply my phone number. I have repeatedly heard it said that Twitter does this for every single new account as a matter of course. Twitter wants your phone number, but don’t want you to bounce right at registration.

but don’t want you to bounce right at registration. Instead, they end up filling their database with countless unused accounts created by those who gave up?

What are the odds that they still count those unused accounts towards that crucial user growth metric?

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What is Twitter's market? They seem increasingly like just another online community. Most of my feed is the same few Twitter influencers with high follower counts. The drama, conventions, and memes all make it feel insular and hostile to outsiders. Feels more like Tumblr than some global, open, platform.

Twitter has all of the "smart people" and "money" on it, unlike Reddit, TikTok, Facebook, Instagram, etc. Billionaires are tweeting each other in the open. Politicians. Reporters. CEOs, CFOs. No other social network is like that. It's the only thing keeping Twitter relevant. TikTok and Instagram have their celebrities and trend setters (which is where the ad dollars are), but you don't see anyone musing about "metave…

LOL tiktok investors are not a thing?

twitter won; no doubt - but there is no stick or way to money-tise that doesnt not turn into a facebook slow drain gurrgler on your userbase.

this is the conundreum of social enagement based apps. Your a fad, and your only another fad away from history!

GREAT long term investment? NAahhhhh. Traditional PUMP n DUMP stock. Billionaires get made, mom and pops get DESTROYED! Celebs will go wherever the endorsement money is. Life will continue. These apps wont.

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The Reddit mobile website might be the worst. Every aspect of it is geared to making it as annoying as possible to use so that you are forced to download their app (or go find a better 3rd party one).

old.reddit.com still works, and the day they disable it is the last day I am a Reddit user (which I have been since the YC days, as an original disaffected digg user)

ditto, I always goto old.reddit.com, I think its tough to adapt to a new UX.

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The Reddit mobile website might be the worst. Every aspect of it is geared to making it as annoying as possible to use so that you are forced to download their app (or go find a better 3rd party one).

old.reddit.com still works, and the day they disable it is the last day I am a Reddit user (which I have been since the YC days, as an original disaffected digg user)

wait till they IPO. They will need to show growth and will erode away old reddit features, with more nags and modals to switch to the “new experience” — so they can boost ad revenue

The push to open web links in a mobile app has already become a PITA

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Any recommendations?

I would strongly bias towards people who have built or created something anything even a small thing vs "experts" "academics" "blue checks" (Eg. John Arnold probably knows a lot more about economic fundamentals than most economists) I would bias towards people who have a concrete position they are advocating for and not just talk about what they are against. Critique is cheap and mostly pointless without a real solut…

> I would bias towards people who have a concrete position they are advocating for and not just talk about what they are against. Critique is cheap and mostly pointless without a real solution.

I'm a big believer in this. I feel a bunch of social issues would be assisted and better understood if people somehow had to attach a possible/attempted solution to any stated gripe. It would 1) serve to generally shut up complainers for a more positive enviroment, 2) make people aware of reasons things are often the way they are once they consider a problem more deeply and 3) aid healthier conversation.

I like the HN view conversation must be interesting or add value type approach. I hope this gets increasingly enforced here as there seems increased volume of low effort comments the last 6 months or so.

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old.reddit.com still works, and the day they disable it is the last day I am a Reddit user (which I have been since the YC days, as an original disaffected digg user)

On mobile i.reddit.com is probably a better fit.

Not for me, it repeats the same top ~20 posts over and over when I use i.reddit.com

And it's functional like a WAP site in 2001 was functional. It's incredibly barebones to the point of being useless. I reckon Reddit forgot it exists at all.

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Quora as well.

I don't believe Quora does this any more. They used to blur the entire page without a login but they relaxed that a couple of years ago now. I do notice that sometimes extended threads still seem to be behind a login wall but it's seems somewhat sporadic and inconsistent.

No it still does force you to login upon loading the page, can't proceed past. I know because it just happened to me.
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