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Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Remember all the articles claiming covid gave you brain damage? What ever happened to that?

Not very hard to find the current, best understanding of the phenomenon: https://www.ninds.nih.gov/Current-Research/Coronavirus-and-N...

Compare the nih link above to the hysteria from here:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27975514

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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It’s terrible to feel terrible, but getting over the worst part of Covid in 3 days is an enormous improvement from how unvaccinated people fared in the initial waves. Even for people not hospitalized, they dealt with pneumonia and shortness of breath for weeks. I think we can celebrate the progress we are making in reducing the average severity of this disease and there are more tools coming soon with Pfizer’s new pi…

Your comment makes it out like everyone with Covid had pnuemonia and shortness of breath for weeks, when really it was a small minority.

According to the CDC, 30% to 40% of symptomatic people get shortness of breath, which is a significant share. That is a signal that the infection has reached the lower respiratory system.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/non-us-setting...

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Dr. Katelyn Jetelina, MPH PhD, has a nice substack from perspective of an epidemiologist. Two notable recent Omicron posts on that substack: The potentially scary aspects: https://yourlocalepidemiologist.substack.com/p/state-of-affa... The potentially good news: https://yourlocalepidemiologist.substack.com/p/there-is-good... Obviously it is still early, but imo those 2 posts give a decent lay of the land.

" We can easily see that in many graphs, but my favorite is below from New York City, showing a clear distinction in hospitalizations among vaccinated compared to unvaccinated people " I don't see this as much here in Ontario. Among the vaccinated as of today there is a 10.10/100k hospitalization status vs 16/100k for the unvaccinated (and 11.9 for one-dose). The hospitalization rate among the vaccinated is climbing…

You have to normalize by age.

Unvaccinated people in Canada are overwhelmingly very very young, in Quebec most of them are too young to be vaccinated.

That's why they don't get hospitalized as much :)

Lies, damned lies, and statistics!

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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But what about weddings? Church? Hospitals? Even during the lockdown, a family friend of mine needed to go to a hospital for an unrelated issue, and that's when a nurse from there passed COVID19 to him. Then he passed COVID19 to his father. He was 35, no kids, didn't work in an office. Still got COVID19 and spread it with deadly results. Etc. etc. Church, Weddings, Thanksgiving / Christmas / New Years, Birthday parti…

Hospitals can be unavoidable if you're unlucky and get hurt. Grocery stores, too, but you can minimize your trips. But the other ones? Totally voluntary and avoidable. The public health guidance around COVID has been atrocious, even as scientists learn more about how the disease spreads indoors. We're going to probably need to change our "indoor event" focused culture if we want to have any hope of getting this behin…

There's no need to change our indoor event focused culture. Now that we have vaccines and other improved therapies we can just accept the risk and move on. In fact, outside the HN bubble people in some states already did that months ago.

We're not all watching the same movie.

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Why are you hoping for Covid to become endemic?

At this point that is the best case. COVID zero is a pipe dream, there are just too many vaccine refusers and too many people refusing to do anything to avoid spreading the virus. If COVID follows the typical evolutionary pattern of viruses and becomes less dangerous, we can get back to normal life -- the question is how long that will take.

> typical evolutionary pattern of viruses and becomes less dangerous

Wishful thinking (that I hope comes true). Ebola got more lethal, not less.

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Calling zvi's blog "useful" is an understatement, he's practically a lesser deity of covid-19 modeling.

I think thought-leaders and experts could use a whole lot less deification right now.

> I think thought-leaders and experts could use a whole lot less deification right now

I'm not sure that's possible - the experts are more or less screaming into the wind at this point. The WHO and the CDC have been reduced to punchlines by liberals and conservatives alike. IMHO this scorn is well-deserved.

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Hmmm... mild symptoms after being vaccinated. It's almost like the vaccine worked or something. How weird.

Plenty of unvaccinated (the vast majority, in fact) also experience mild symptoms. It's almost like you've got an unfalsifiable way to always say "it worked!"

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Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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But now we’ll be able to reach herd immunity. Very mild and highly transmissible. This is the best possible outcome.

I've been watching over both my parents the past week. Both Omicron cases. "Very mild" is... not accurate. It hasn't hospitalized them, but even without quarantining, they'd be incapable of living anything like a normal life. The common cold it most certainly IS NOT. (Both are double vaxxed and boosted, btw)

Very mild is exceptionally accurate. It’s a nothing burger even for unvaccinated people.

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Correct. I know several people who are vaccinated yet caught Covid twice. The principle thing to keep in mind, - vaccination is a risk reducer on severity of infection. Nobody said immunity; nobody said prevention. - and on that point not getting into the hospital is important. From a management standpoint, we've got to insure demand for hospital resources does not dwarf those same resources. That's the key managemen…

> Nobody said immunity; nobody said prevention. What on earth? Yes they did, all along. December 2020: > Fauci Predicts U.S. Could See Signs Of Herd Immunity By Late March Or Early April https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/1... > "I would say 50% would have to get vaccinated before you start to see an impact," Fauci said. "But I would say 75 to 85% would have to get vaccinated if you want to ha…

Yah, ok, I blew it. Vaccinations will trend towards immunity.

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Also: - how much/long the media keeps the fear drum pounding https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI5E8z89c9U

Media fear drum has no effect on whether my local hospital is overwhelmed. Everybody can make their own decisions, as long as hospitals are good.

Everyone should be able to make their own decisions anyway. Hospitals are some arbitrator of decision making and hosptial admission due to covid is collapsing. Stop fear mongering this isn’t Facebook.
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