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Re: Ideal Monitor Rotation for Programmers

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Post by DennisP »

funkymike wrote: post #206
DennisP wrote: post #30

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What I'd like: an editor with multiple tiled windows side by side, filling up a wide monitor, all showing the same text threaded through it. Line n at the bottom of one puts line n+1 at the top of the window to the right of it. Scrolling in one window scrolls them all. (Of course you could optionally split it up differently to see multiple files.)

You can do this in vim with the scrollbind option. You could create a simple script to set up the windows and get the views lined up to the correct line numbers. The one caveat is that enabling line wrapping will screw it up. :windo set nowrap :vsp ctrl-w ctrl-w ctrl-d ctrl-d :vsp ctrl-w ctrl-w ctrl-d ctrl-d :windo set scrollbind

Tried that but don't see a way to make the windows show different parts of the document. How does that happen?

And if I were to insert or delete lines in the first panel, would the others change their starting rows to account for that?

Re: Ideal Monitor Rotation for Programmers

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Post by DennisP »

npsimons wrote: post #346
DennisP wrote: post #30

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What I'd like: an editor with multiple tiled windows side by side, filling up a wide monitor, all showing the same text threaded through it. Line n at the bottom of one puts line n+1 at the top of the window to the right of it. Scrolling in one window scrolls them all. (Of course you could optionally split it up differently to see multiple files.)

> What I'd like: an editor with multiple tiled windows side by side, filling up a wide monitor, all showing the same text threaded through it. Line n at the bottom of one puts line n+1 at the top of the window to the right of it. Scrolling in one window scrolls them all. > (Of course you could optionally split it up differently to see multiple files.) Now I want to go write some elisp . . . But for the moment, I'll l…

Hmm. That's a tempting little project actually.

Re: Ideal Monitor Rotation for Programmers

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Post by specialist »

can16358p wrote: post #67

Am I the only one (fullstack programmer + designer + hobby photographer) here who's perfectly okay with a single laptop monitor? Maybe it's to do with I love being mobile, maybe it's that I use UI and text very small, but I can perfectly fit either 3 Vscode tabs, or website + PIP video, a few terminals, many views in Sketch or a combination of those in a screen (16" MBP). I'm also okay with working with Photoshop or…

For me, depends on task and context. Working on my own code, distraction free, laptop in a library is heaven. Trying to troubleshoot stuff failing in prod right now, keeping multiple plates spinning, the more CPUs and screens the better.

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Post by arendtio »

Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #220
arendtio wrote: post #113

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I use two 27" 4k Monitors in landscape mode arranged vertically. That way I have one primary monitor just in front of me and some extra space when I need it. Having the secondary screen above the primary means you won't have neck pain from looking to the one side all the time. In addition, it is quite relaxing to lean back and watch a presentation/video on the secondary screen. The biggest downside is the position of…

Looking up will be a bigger problem for neck and will strain the eyes more. The upper edge of the display should be on eye level: humans are much more comfortable looking down than up.

You are right, that looking down is more comfortable than looking up when sitting straight.

However, I like it better to look up than to look left or right and my reasoning is that it is symmetrical. Therefore, I prefer to have the secondary screen above the primary.

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Post by 0des »

teejmya wrote: post #281
0des wrote: post #63

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That's cool! Any chance you can post a pic of your desk? I'd love to see this

If anyone else enjoys pictures of these setups as much as I do, you may enjoy browsing this subreddit: https://reddpics.com/r/ultimatebattlestation

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Re: Ideal Monitor Rotation for Programmers

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Post by joshspankit »

Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #374
selfhoster11 wrote: post #317

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I know that you are writing in jest, but the very concept that any amount of slouching is tolerable to someone in this profession should be outrageous. We spend decades deforming our backs to sit in chairs. The least we can do is to promote the idea of an international "Insufficiently Ergonomic Office Chair Bonfire Day".

Off-topic > but the very concept that any amount of slouching is tolerable to someone in this profession should be outrageous. We spend decades deforming our backs to sit in chairs. Would you be interested in a tool which reminds you to take a walk at regular intervals without any action from you when you're seated and immersed with work? I'm trying to validate the need to refine and make my 'Butt Pomodoro'[1] more a…

How do you tackle the problem of “alarm blindness”?

The moment I think about a ‘Butt Pomodoro’ I picture myself being 90% disciplined and 10% saying “ok yes but not right now: I’m (doing something with a critical deadline/in the zone/especially lazy)”

And after a few of those, the reminder becomes background noise.

Re: Ideal Monitor Rotation for Programmers

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Post by Abishek_Muthian »

joshspankit wrote: post #406
Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #374

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Off-topic > but the very concept that any amount of slouching is tolerable to someone in this profession should be outrageous. We spend decades deforming our backs to sit in chairs. Would you be interested in a tool which reminds you to take a walk at regular intervals without any action from you when you're seated and immersed with work? I'm trying to validate the need to refine and make my 'Butt Pomodoro'[1] more a…

How do you tackle the problem of “alarm blindness”? The moment I think about a ‘Butt Pomodoro’ I picture myself being 90% disciplined and 10% saying “ok yes but not right now: I’m (doing something with a critical deadline/in the zone/especially lazy)” And after a few of those, the reminder becomes background noise.

Good question.

That's why I integrated pomodoro framework and didn't make a plain butt triggered alarm and so Butt Pomodoro is a time-management + health application not just a activity alarm.

I was already using Pomodoro schedule for time-management/productivity albeit triggering it manually now Butt Pomodoro helps me to trigger it automatically and pomodoro breaks are now for walks.

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Post by cecilpl2 »

fleaaa wrote: post #392
cecilpl2 wrote: post #152

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You'll have to excuse the mess :) https://imgur.com/a/5uTm7VB Also obviously I hid all the proprietary stuff.

This is a beautiful desk setup. Do you prefer having the gaps in between?

No honestly I'd rather everything were flush, but that's the best I can do with the stand and monitors I have. The monitors aren't all the same make/model.

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Post by jacobolus »

z3t4 wrote: post #369
jacobolus wrote: post #356

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For comfort you do not want to be looking substantially upward or tilting your head back. It’s much better for your eyes to put the display lower and look down (by swiveling your eyes, not your whole head) for the bottom part instead. For typing it works well with a large display to put the bottom of the display barely above the desk, push it back as far as you can (constrained by your workspace) and tilt it backward…

Or just zoom in (increase font size) enough so that you do not need to sqeeze/focus in order to read.

Your eyes need to focus and converge on the display surface irrespective of the distance or orientation of the display and irrespective of the font size.

But as a general rule, the further the display surface the less your eye muscles need to work. So if you can put your display 3m away from your eyes that is better than putting it 30cm away.

On my desk, about 90cm from my face is the furthest I can manage, but if you have more space in your work room, by all means put the display significantly further than that.

Re: Ideal Monitor Rotation for Programmers

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Post by rectang »

LegitShady wrote: post #377
rectang wrote: post #191

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I agree with you that most people only need reading glasses — or more precisely computer glasses, which are typically set to focus at 20-24 inches rather than 16 inches as is common for reading glasses. However, I think you are understating the problems posed by other conditions. The prevalence of cataracts by age 64 is in the neighborhood of 15-20%. https://www.nei.nih.gov/learn-about-eye-health/outreach-camp... It'…

> The prevalence of cataracts by age 64 is in the neighborhood of 15-20%. But what is the lower bound where it starts to get that common, is the question? Does it affect people in their careers that often? probably not. >Dismissive attitudes like this among the visually acute are one reason website accessibility is generally so poor. Sorry you disliked my analogy but it has nothing to do with website accessibility, m…

> But what is the lower bound where it starts to get that common, is the question?

This data is available at the NIH link I posted earlier, which breaks things down into 5 year spans.

The lower bound is 10%, since that's the prevalence by age 59.

> Does it affect people in their careers that often? probably not.

The data makes this assertion obviously wrong. A huge number of people get cataracts during their working years.

Fortunately, surgery to treat cataracts has a 95% success rate. Unfortunately, it's not 100% (and anecdotally I know multiple individuals in the lucky 5% whose vision has not improved after cataract surgery.)

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