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YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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I'm actually a regular listener of Bryson Gray on Spotify and heard this release yesterday. I'm glad Fox is giving him the spotlight. I would argue that by YouTube taking down his video they gave him a lot more publicity than he otherwise gets... good for him!

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Someone has already linked to it being posted on Gab. What people are really upset about is that they can't use Youtube's technological prowess, audience reach and outlet legitimacy to promote their ideas. When someone sees: "You can't find it on Youtube, but it's hosted on Gab", The listener draws enough conclusions about the media and it's intended audience for it to be dead on arrival.

… and those conclusions - that the song is harmful and frankly not good - are by and large true after reading the lyrics.

You concluded that a SONG wasn't good by READING the lyrics?

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Yes, vaccines prevent you from ending up in the ICU, but they aren't preventing the spread. This portion of your comment in particular is false. People who receive two COVID-19 jabs and later contract the Delta variant are less likely to infect their close contacts than are unvaccinated people with Delta. Relevant Nature article (October 5, 2021). However, good job on the masks part, please keep wearing them! :-) [1]…

> they aren't preventing the spread. > less likely to infect their close contacts than are unvaccinated people with Delta I don't see these as contradictory. Vaccines are more effective against transmissions, yet vaccines don't slow down transmissions in a significative way. As per the article: > Unfortunately, the vaccine’s beneficial effect on Delta transmission waned to almost negligible levels over time. In peopl…

The study contradicts his assumptions so he is unable to take this new information and update preexisting beliefs. Or he didn't read the new study. A bunch of people are living in denial.

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Italy is at 80% and they still see the need to ban unvaccinated people from places. New Zealand is planning to ban unvaccinated people form places after we reach 90% of over-12-year-olds. So even with a massive 80% vaccinated, the vaccine doesn't stop the spread. Maybe it would at 90%? 95%? Who knows. In New Zealand, the unvaccinated are largely the indigenous Maori, not stereotypical anti-vaxxers.

I think you'd find that Māori are doing OK. Better than Pacific Islanders.

But yes, there's hard-to-reach people in every ethnicity. What I've enjoyed is the orgs who are vaccinating Māori and Pacific Islanders - always tell the community to come along even if you don't fit in either ethnicity, you'll still get a jab. I just love that. It's the way it should be!

We're all people, let's look after each other.

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Youtube doesn't care. It can't have antivax stuff on their platform because advertisers don't want their ads on controversial content.

When I advertise to consumers, it is not important to me that they believe vaccination against COVID-19 is good or not. I really struggle to think of any company for which it is important that their customers are not sceptical of vaccinations? Maybe airlines and hotels. Since I can’t see how any company would want to reject customers for making certain decisions about their health or not, it appears to me that it rat…

Many consumers may see you advertising (providing monetary support to) conspiracy theorists, and boycott you for it.

Advertisers have to be concerned about being associated with "personae non gratae".

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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> The single line referencing COVID is this: "Green light, mandate Inaccurate. The line "Pandemic ain't real, they just planned it" is also referencing COVID, and pushing a false and dangerous conspiracy theory about it.

Perhaps instead of censoring the song, YouTube could require that the uploader include at the end of it an explanation of what it means for a pandemic to not be "real". Does it mean that COVID doesn't exist, and people are just pretending to have symptoms? Is that what "they" planned? By actually getting people to talk through their beliefs, and state them clearly, society might be able to consider all opinions and h…

An alternative view point is instead of forcing words into peoples mouths, we can just choose not to censor comedy, music, and the arts.

It wasn't a dangerous stance to take at one time - lets not censor people. Its music.

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Were there other lyrics besides "Let's Go Brandon"? If those contained disinfo, perhaps that is why.

> Pandemic ain't real, they just planned it probably that part?

Please burn all the books already published with those keywords.

https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=false+pandemic...

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Silencing people and pretending it’s OK is not going to work. It’s a double edge sword. Because one day they’re going to silence you. The math doesn’t work out long term.

> It’s a double edge sword. Because one day they’re going to silence you. This is true, but it is an important topic so here is another angle to consider: YouTube doesn't have any tools to sift right from wrong that we don't already have, and their censors are probably only marginally more intelligent than average. They are going to get stuff really wrong from time to time, and eventually are going to censor importan…

> YouTube doesn't have any tools to sift right from wrong that we don't already have, and their censors are probably only marginally more intelligent than average.

I thought Facebook & Google were outsourcing the censoring to low budget contracting firms in poorer states, so they could keep the spend at a minimum?

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> The vaccine significantly slows ths spread Based on what data do you come to that conclusion? The vaccination rate of a country is not correlated with its covid infection rate: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10654-021-00808-7 And after 3 months of being fully vaccinated, people are just as likely to spread the virus as unvaccinated people: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02689-y From the arti…

Thank you for the links. I followed them and came to a different conclusion: 1) "The vaccination rate of a country is not correlated with its covid infection rate". From the article: "The lack of a meaningful association between percentage population fully vaccinated and new COVID-19 cases is further exemplified, for instance, by comparison of Iceland and Portugal. Both countries have over 75% of their population ful…

> You can interpret this as either the vaccine not working (unlikely) or that high-income countries such as Iceland and Portugal test a larger share of their population than low-income countries such as Vietnam and South Africa (very likely)

You may interpret all you want, but I was just pointing out the lack of solid data supporting the claim: "The vaccine significantly slows the spread"

Almost 3 billion people have been fully vaccinated worldwide and yet there is still no evidence that the vaccines have any effect at all in slowing the spread of the virus. I find this rather remarkable.

This situation could very well push the evolution of the virus towards more dangerous strains. Like what happened with Marek's disease among chickens:

https://www.quantamagazine.org/how-vaccines-can-drive-pathog...

> Your quote shows that the AstraZeneca vaccine loses effectiveness over time. However, the chance of an unvaccinated person passing on the virus is 67%, which is significantly higher than the 58% for a person who received the Pfizer vaccine.

Pfizer buys you a bit more time, but the downward trend in your immunity is unmistakable too:

https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/coronavirus/1626980447-vaccin...

https://imgur.com/zt0wrOo

https://www.gov.il/BlobFolder/reports/vaccine-efficacy-safet...

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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> I have 0 problem whatsoever with large, public information clearing houses suppressing anything that is counter factual during the emergency. That's precisely the problem though. The rule at Youtube is any content that goes against CDC/WHO guidelines is considered "misinformation". So to your point: > If they were taking down information about a doctor challenging Health Authorities in a very Scientific manner, tha…

The WHO/CDC positions are consistent with the prevailing science. If someone went on YouTube to articulate the current scientific consensus of Ivermectin, which is that "There is no evidence to support it as a therapy for COVID, but that there are currently studies in progress which could yield important information, and in the meantime, people should definitely not be taking it as it can be dangerous unless administ…

> The WHO/CDC positions are consistent with the prevailing science.

Aren’t these the organizations that lied to the public in March 2020, saying masks were not effective?

They later justified their deception, at the cost of how many lives (?), by suggesting it was to prevent a shortage of masks for medical personnel.

These organizations are not promoting the science to shape policy, they’re promoting policy with filtered science.

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