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Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Post by mulmen »

Gigachad wrote: post #329
exporectomy wrote: post #327

It's possible he really did violate Google's "Program Policies" which are utterly ridiculous: "If storing or distributing content related to terrorism for an educational, documentary, scientific, or artistic purpose be mindful to provide enough information so viewers understand the context." So a random photo of a ute with the ISIS logo on the side might be a violation if you don't also write some commentary explaini…

As if the Google AI is smart enough to understand context anyway. If you are going to use google services, set a calendar reminder to download the takeout dump very frequently. It's pretty easy to do and saves you in these cases.

Also don't take any important dependency on any Google service. If Gmail is your primary email you may end up locked out of everything associated with it.

Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Post by pdonis »

DaiPlusPlus wrote: post #367
pdonis wrote: post #302

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The author of this article is not an average consumer. He's a person undertaking a particular project that requires a lot of digital data storage, and anyone doing that needs to take the time to think through the risks and benefits of the various available options. "Just put it on Google Drive and hope it's safe" does not qualify.

"the author of this article" uhmm... there is no article. It's a link to a google support forum thread. And the way the author of the initial post (not just the replies) describes the way they use Google Drive and how they use technology in general suggests the person does not have the same level of tech-savvy as a typical HN reader.

> there is no article. It's a link to a google support forum thread

Fine, then s/article/post/ in what I said.

> the way the author of the initial post (not just the replies) describes the way they use Google Drive and how they use technology in general suggests the person does not have the same level of tech-savvy as a typical HN reader

I agree; I'm simply pointing out that if you are going to try to execute a project that requires a lot of digital storage of important data, you should be tech savvy, or collaborate with someone who is. You certainly should not expect a free service like Google Drive to be a secure, reliable data store for your only copies of important data.

Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Post by KorematsuFredt »

tyingq wrote: post #43

I'm curious if "has locked my account" means just Google Drive, or if he also lost Gmail, Android functionality, Chrome profiles, Adwords, YouTube, YouTubeTV, purchased movies and tv shows, Fitbit, Nest, sites where he used federated login (DoorDash, Uber, etc). I see, for example, his YouTube channel is up, but it's associated with 'team@armouredarchives.com', and not the personal gmail account he posted in the link…

G employee. If you are using G to store anything important and if you do not have an offline backup or some other redundancy please reconsider.

Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Post by andromeduck »

KorematsuFredt wrote: post #403
tyingq wrote: post #43

I'm curious if "has locked my account" means just Google Drive, or if he also lost Gmail, Android functionality, Chrome profiles, Adwords, YouTube, YouTubeTV, purchased movies and tv shows, Fitbit, Nest, sites where he used federated login (DoorDash, Uber, etc). I see, for example, his YouTube channel is up, but it's associated with 'team@armouredarchives.com', and not the personal gmail account he posted in the link…

G employee. If you are using G to store anything important and if you do not have an offline backup or some other redundancy please reconsider.

Agreed. Cloudsync is a car superior product and supports every cloud service ever and full encryption.

https://cloudsync.bdrive.com/

Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Post by numpad0 »

KorematsuFredt wrote: post #403
tyingq wrote: post #43

I'm curious if "has locked my account" means just Google Drive, or if he also lost Gmail, Android functionality, Chrome profiles, Adwords, YouTube, YouTubeTV, purchased movies and tv shows, Fitbit, Nest, sites where he used federated login (DoorDash, Uber, etc). I see, for example, his YouTube channel is up, but it's associated with 'team@armouredarchives.com', and not the personal gmail account he posted in the link…

G employee. If you are using G to store anything important and if you do not have an offline backup or some other redundancy please reconsider.

Do people lose data or lose proof of identity when they have had account(s) banned?

Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Post by jacquesm »

foxpurple wrote: post #92
spicybright wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I highly doubt getting locked out of your google drive still allows you to download backups from google backup services...

Which is why I download the Takeout backup monthly.

Good luck trying to use it.

Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Post by jacquesm »

nitrogen wrote: post #91
gorwell wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is why I've stopped buying books on kindle. It gives Amazon the power to censor your book library, and it would not surprise me at all if we see them exercise that power soon.

They already have, when they remotely deleted copies of 1984, IIRC whose copyright had expired in one country, but not in another.

They really couldn't have picked a better book to do that with.

Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Post by Mordisquitos »

quantumBerry wrote: post #384
parrellel wrote: post #328

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd say when you twig to google as a violent terrorist it should escalate to a real human to check before shutting the account down and forwarding it to the FBI.

And in the meantime before a human can check it, you think google will be completely without liability if they flag someone as a terrorist but let them continue on with their business, even aiding them with all of google services?

They most certainly should be, because an automated Google system having "flagged" a user as "a terrorist" means nothing in the eyes of the law. On the other hand, they should not in any way be without liability for wrongly suspending a user's account just because their automated system unjustifiably "flagged" them.

Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Post by usr1106 »

jms703 wrote: post #282
tyingq wrote: post #43

I'm curious if "has locked my account" means just Google Drive, or if he also lost Gmail, Android functionality, Chrome profiles, Adwords, YouTube, YouTubeTV, purchased movies and tv shows, Fitbit, Nest, sites where he used federated login (DoorDash, Uber, etc). I see, for example, his YouTube channel is up, but it's associated with 'team@armouredarchives.com', and not the personal gmail account he posted in the link…

Another reason to not use Google/Facebook or similar identities to login to a service. You lose access to your Google account, you lose access to all those other services.

I used to have many Google accounts (credentials in my password manager). One for gmail, one for every mailing list on goougle groups, one for Google+ etc. For a while they haven't let me use them whithout problems providing a phone number. They force me into some security check-up after logging in which seems to have no way to skip the phone number entry.

Less Google for me, which is not necessarily a bad thing.

Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Post by asiachick »

ecshafer wrote: post #2

I will upvote and comment to hopefully gain visibility at the minimum. Google really has an unfortunate customer support set up, in that there isn't one. Your best bet when Google does something bad to their customers like this (And regardless if its a bad AI or bad bot, its still Google doing it), is to post it on twitter or hackernews and hope it gets the visibility for a Google employee to fix it, or contact someo…

I see this complaint and it doesn't fit my experience at all. I pay for a google account (GSuite) and every time I've asked for help I've gotten it quickly/timely. Maybe if you aren't paying?
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