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TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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Post by 2OEH8eoCRo0 »

Dah00n wrote: post #175
jjice wrote: post #131

Lots of positivity in this thread, and I don't think that's entirely a bad thing, but I think TikTok is the worst of the social media platforms in terms of addictiveness, based on my peers. As a recent grad, so many of my friends are heavily invested in TikTok and have been since quarantine began, some of them for a bit before. The amount of time they spend there is absurd. Consuming 30 second content for three hours…

From what I've seen Tiktok is no worse than Instagram, Facebook or Snapchat. If anything there's less toxicity which in itself makes Tiktok better than the rest. With that said I don't use social media much (like maybe an hour a week? I have neither Twitter, Facebook, Instagram or Snapchat accounts) and if I had to pick only one it would be Tiktok (even though I don't use it now) except if there were a curated HN pag…

It's survival of the fittest. The replacement for Facebook and Instagram must have more frequent dopamine hits and less friction.

TikTok is better at delivering those hits and worse for the human.

Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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Post by DLay »

deminature wrote: post #238

It's fascinating to see Facebook threatened by a company they can't just acquire to put down their competition. Their response in the form of Reels is consistently much worse at recommending quality content than Tiktok is and generally just comprises re-uploads from Tiktok, which is a bad look (people aren't making their content for Reels first). Tiktok is also addictive in a way that no competing app has managed to…

I’ve noticed most the re-uploaded content on Reels are from meme accounts and not the actual TikTok user themselves, which leads me to believe its shortcomings are more of a content and cultural issue.

Instagram has become way more formal and people’s profiles are carefully curated now. Posting silly trends or going on live on Instagram would be a form of social suicide for many.

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Post by ralusek »

n8cpdx wrote: post #374
drzaiusapelord wrote: post #311

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50k is really amateur numbers. 50k people have probably already read you comment. Charli Damelio's last post was her eating a bag of Takis for 20 seconds and it got 15 MILLION views. We're just not seeing those numbers in marginalized communities on tiktok but we do see queer creators with top-tier numbers on youtube, facebook, insta, etc. Where's the trans Charli or the obese Charli or the anti-capitalist Charli? Se…

As a queer person who uses TikTok, I think you should take some time to challenge your assumptions and get some more information. This video might be informative: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MYEtQ5Zdn8 I should correct a mistake I made earlier: all of my numbers cited are likes not views. The TikTok promoting vaccines was seen 3.5 Million times. There are many queer creators with videos in the millions of views,…

> also don't think its reasonable to expect trans content to perform as well, given that a substantial portion of the US population still doesn't want to recognize or legalize their existence

1.) A substantial portion of the US population doesn't want to recognize or legalize the existence of trans people? What are you talking about? You're aware of some faction that's actively trying to make being transgender illegal?

2.) Your expectation is that content produced by transgender individuals (less than 1% of the population) is on aggregate as popular as content made by the remaining 99% of people? Do you mind defining the distribution you would consider to be acceptable here, as well as why you think it currently isn't your desired distribution?

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Post by romwell »

mbesto wrote: post #384
romwell wrote: post #294

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Yeah, no. TikTok's algorithm has introduced me to my (now) favorite neurodivergent and LGBTQ+ content makers. Some of them have hundreds of thousands of followers, some a few hundred. I've learned more about these subjects (and myself!) than from most other sources. The value of TikTok for me was that it linked up a bunch of neurodivergent/lgbtq+ people into a vibrant, supportive community. Honestly, if they decide t…

I think you missed the parent's point. Their point wasn't that these experiences aren't possible today , it's that these wonderful and joyful experiences are all nice now but will quickly fade as the company scales its commercial operations, just like what has happened at Facebook, Twitter and now Instagram and Snapchat.

If that was the point, what's the point of stating that point?

"The thing y'all enjoy now will be crap in a few years, get off my lawn?"

I didn't come here for fortune-telling.

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Post by panorama »

OldTimeCoffee wrote: post #153
Barrin92 wrote: post #89

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Going through a museum, and actively studying individual art deeply is a very different activity mentally, and much more stimulating, than scrolling through a feed passively 15 second clip after clip. It does actually take a sort of literacy to understand and appreciate art. Go talk to anyone about art who has spent a lot of time studying it and then talk to someone who just walks through the museum to take instagram…

Reading this, I just want to see the "scholarly approach" to TikTok. That sounds like some nice performance art. Alternatively, this is the kind of thing guys like Banksy and Warhol were doing with their art. It's a pretty narrow minded view of art to not include some of the stuff going on on TikTok.

It's surprising to me how many people in these comments are trying to gatekeep art, as if art must only be the life's work of famous masters. Museums are full of crude drawings, sculptures, tools created by people who didn't consider themselves artists. Art reflects the social mores of its time and we can also take interest in art to simply get a glimpse into the past.

Plus no one in their right mind would have compared the Pieta to a local bard with a talent for singing and dancing getting paid to entertain people. Just a lot of backward comparisons all because people have in their mind a single definition of what "art" is and should be.

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Post by bamboozled »

mrtksn wrote: post #25

I'm a huge fan of TikTok because after years of content stagnation and dullness, the internet is fun again. Especially places like Twitter and Instagram are outrage and depression inducers for me, consumed together it feels like the society is collapsing but everyone is living a perfect life at the same time. The China thing is touchy but I want the west to beat them by being better, not by being dismissive and prote…

Yesterday a friend posted a funny post about corona virus and getting her vaccine, she said something like, “I imagine I shoved much worse things in my body, it wasn’t so bad after all.” With a funny accompanying photo.

She is in Australia where there is a pretty big campaign underway to improve the image of vaccines with younger people.

Anyways, it was mostly unreadable because Instagram had put a massive warning from the WHO about how important vaccines are.

I understand the intention was positive but it was also kind of ironic because it was a pro-vaccine post, it was also a bit of fun.

The fun and good will was stolen.

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Post by droptablemain »

ALittleLight wrote: post #250
aerosmile wrote: post #235

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If you had an issue with Zuck calling early Facebook users "dumb f**ks," wait until you find out what's going on behind the closed Tik Tok doors. You have to remember - we're still in the honeymoon phase with Tik Tok and haven't learned to hate them yet. Once the media and all your friends start sharing hatred about Tik Tok, leaks are going to start coming out, and there will be all the other fun ways through which w…

The thesis for America exceeding China in the near term future that I have heard is "Our Chinese will beat their Chinese." [1] 1 - https://alphastar.academy/us-team-wins-1st-place-at-internat...

Sometimes the jokes just write themselves.

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Post by arvinsim »

bacondev wrote: post #364
aerosmile wrote: post #235

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If you had an issue with Zuck calling early Facebook users "dumb f**ks," wait until you find out what's going on behind the closed Tik Tok doors. You have to remember - we're still in the honeymoon phase with Tik Tok and haven't learned to hate them yet. Once the media and all your friends start sharing hatred about Tik Tok, leaks are going to start coming out, and there will be all the other fun ways through which w…

We already know enough about TikTok to hate it. Unfortunately, the masses don't seem to care. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TikTok#Controversies https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/fxgi06/not_new_news...

The masses generally don't care. I mean, if you look at the Apple debacle recently, most people will forget about it or won't even be aware about it after a few months.

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Post by winternett »

I think after reading a ton of comments here, the one thing that most people overlook is that each user's experience on social platforms is now completely different because of all of the algorithmic "funnels" they implement.

Some people get funneled into depression spirals, some people find great new music, the paths are implemented by companies bent towards profit and engagement, while as a result the people driven by reckless experimentation can be driven to madness, suicide, and even doing harm to others including animals in hopes of being seen.

I only use social platforms in small spurts because I noticed most of these short video platforms are wrecking my patience and attention span in real life... They are truly good when search works properly and when each user is in full control of what they want to see and the content is properly categorized and tagged, but that doesn't make them enough money... apparently.

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Post by nl »

ralusek wrote: post #403
n8cpdx wrote: post #374

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a queer person who uses TikTok, I think you should take some time to challenge your assumptions and get some more information. This video might be informative: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MYEtQ5Zdn8 I should correct a mistake I made earlier: all of my numbers cited are likes not views. The TikTok promoting vaccines was seen 3.5 Million times. There are many queer creators with videos in the millions of views,…

> also don't think its reasonable to expect trans content to perform as well, given that a substantial portion of the US population still doesn't want to recognize or legalize their existence 1.) A substantial portion of the US population doesn't want to recognize or legalize the existence of trans people? What are you talking about? You're aware of some faction that's actively trying to make being transgender illega…

Have you responded to the wrong comment here? You seem to be agreeing that obese, trans and other niche content is likely to be less popular than generic, less niche content.

1.) A substantial portion of the US population doesn't want to recognize or legalize the existence of trans people? What are you talking about? You're aware of some faction that's actively trying to make being transgender illegal?

Hard to read what you disagree with here, but yes there are factions that are trying to make behaviours that trans people exhibit illegal. For example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bathroom_bill

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