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Post by Ndymium »

handrous wrote: post #318
mvolfik wrote: post #242

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iirc it is possible, but I recall you needed to click unobvious buttons or just do it while offline and connect only after that

It used to be a sneaky button, but last time I installed there was no way to do it without disconnecting from the Internet. If you're connected, you are not presented an option to create a local account, even in a way that's hard to find.

Last time I did it, the trick was to begin logging in or creating a new online account (forget which way), and from there you could actually change your mind and create a local account.

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Post by ziml77 »

philliphaydon wrote: post #262
silicon2401 wrote: post #180

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> A Microsoft account and internet connectivity is required for Windows 11 Home setup Looks like I'll be skipping windows 11 and any future windows iterations if this is unavoidable

Looking at windows 11 I might move back from linux.

"from"? Is that a typo or do you really mean you are considering using Windows 11?

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Post by ptx »

fader wrote: post #5

Putting the start menu button in the middle of the panel rather than at a corner seems to forget Fitts' Law. Is this a push to make people use hotkeys more or just bad design?

They can just do what they did in Windows 95 (possibly not in the very first version) where the start button doesn't actually extend all the way into the corner, but clicking the corner pixel teleports the cursor a few pixels inwards, so that the click hits the button.

The same fix would work in Windows 11, although it would involve teleporting the cursor halfway across the screen.

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Post by fermentation »

Icathian wrote: post #368
typh00n wrote: post #345

I really do like Windows, but it has a lot of issues for me: Pushing its users to Microsoft Accounts, telemetry, ads, bloatware it automatically installs, and last but not least inconsistencies all the way through the OS - and adding another design-layer with windows 11 wont help that. I think microsoft really need to address some of this and get back to the needs of "prosumers". I personally want a slim but nice loo…

I've said for years the day I can reliably play League of Legends on Linux you'll never see me using anything else at home again. Just frustrating that gaming is still largely a best-effort crapshoot despite all the work by Valve and others.

Last summer all I had was a linux box to play games, and I found that a lot of games I wanted to play (like the witcher 3) worked surprisingly well via Proton. I think the main issues come from the massive GaaS like LoL and Destiny that have so many moving parts and points of failure.

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Post by kinjba11 »

sbelskie wrote: post #394
polskibus wrote: post #334

I hope embedding Teams will lead to antitrust like IE did. This is basically making everyone use Teams and will cut out a lot of competitors and other companies who have some form of collaboration built-in into their product.

How does this make everyone use Teams?

"Everyone" in a casual sense. You don't have to use Safari, iMessage and FaceTime on Apple devices, but for all intents and purposes "everyone" does because it's the default. Similar to Internet Explorer on Windows - clearly inferior product, but it took years for it to become common knowledge among the non-technical folks that you really should install a better browser.

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Post by rypskar »

kleiba wrote: post #226
Aerroon wrote: post #191

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> * A Microsoft account and internet connectivity is required for Windows 11 Home setup I refuse. There better be easily accessible versions without this requirement.

I'm not a Windows person but recently had to go through the setup process on my parents' newly purchased desktop machine. As far as I could tell, creating a user account just locally was not possible, you had to have an online account, hooked up with a valid email address. Given that most free email providers require you to provide your phone number (I don't own a phone), I had to do some digging--- all just to creat…

>>Given that most free email providers require you to provide your phone number

Didn't windows suggest to create a free email @outlook.com (or whatever MS have for free emails)? I have used that on a couple of computers, was no requirement for phone number and I have no idea about what the addresses I created are

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Post by MereInterest »

dmt0 wrote: post #358
huhtenberg wrote: post #338

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Probably intentional. They'll remove this in Windows 12.

Microsoft is continuing their long tradition of screwing up every other version of Windows. 98SE - ok, ME - bad, XP - good, Vista - bad, 7 - good, 8 - bad, 10 - good, 11 - can safely skip it and wait for 12

I thought Windows 9 was the good one that would have come between Windows 8 and 10. Because 10 certainly isn't a good one (looking at you, fantastically broken start menu search that needs frequent re-indexing).

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Post by megablast »

FridayoLeary wrote: post #380
dean177 wrote: post #227

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- Windows have rounded corners - Teams integrated into Windows - A new widgets fly out for weather, news, etc. (appears this will require you login with a Microsoft Account) - A Microsoft account and internet connectivity is required for Windows 11 Home setup No thank you

- A new widgets fly out for weather, news, etc. (appears this will require you login with a Microsoft Account) Sounds daft and pointless to me. Are they mistaking their software for Apple or Android? Is Linux a usable alternative? IMHO, Windows 7 is my favorite OS, also XP, I don't love Windows 10 but Windows 11 sounds even less exciting, maybe MS should make some kind of "special edition" Windows XP that can support…

I stopped using windows when they bought out vista.
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