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Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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Post by outside1234 »

js2 wrote: post #149
outside1234 wrote: post #43

Wow - so if the grid goes down the Truck will power your house? That is awesome! ref: https://www.ford.com/trucks/f150/f150-lightning/2022/ (see bottom)

I'm not sure it makes sense though. Now you have to choose between transportation and powering your home. As well, the power needs to go out when the truck happens to have a full charge. I think it cost them little to add (because they already have on-board power ports, which does make sense), but from a practical standpoint, I don't know how useful it is.

Its not a complete solution obviously - but it is pretty good in a pinch - and doesn't require installing a bunch of dedicated batteries.

And for most scenarios it works - having some energy is always better than none. eg. The fridge will stay cold enough while you go shop for more food or whatever.

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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Post by Cshelton »

ketamine__ wrote: post #380
ortusdux wrote: post #287

Tesla's checkout process has spoiled me. It's landing page -> select a model -> select options and appearance -> enter payment info for a 100$ deposit. No signups, no friction, just car creation and transparent info and pricing. Step one on Ford's site is to select a dealer. Already I'm thinking about how much I hate my local dealer and the whole dealership system in general. Step two is a login screen with create an…

But how long does it take you to get it? Most people can walk into a dealership and buy a new car instantly.

Keep in mind with the dealership model, you are easily paying a 25% or more premium on that vehicle.

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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Post by Der_Einzige »

CalRobert wrote: post #8

It's great to see the best selling vehicle in the US be zero emissions. It's wonderful. But this truck will be very heavy, very tall, and very fast. Drivers are already the leading killers of children, and more and more people are being killed while walking and cycling. I'm very worried about the effect of making this vehicle even faster and heavier. Hopefully reduced deaths from pollution offset this.

Automatic breaking systems are getting even better and have been pretty good for awhile. You can expect preventable fatalities of pedestrians and other drivers from cars and trucks to decline as this technology becomes better.

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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Post by jrsj »

newacct583 wrote: post #308
jrsj wrote: post #233

There’s a lot of stereotyping of truck owners going on in this thread which is kind of funny given how pro-EV HN normally is. It’s like the aesthetics of a pickup truck is offensive to some people. Kind of bizarre and not something I’m used to seeing but I guess I live in Ohio so that probably has something to do with it. A lot of people just want to move stuff, they don’t want to like…burn your house down while wear…

> There’s a lot of stereotyping of truck owners going on in this thread which is kind of funny given how pro-EV HN normally is. Yet the top comment is a reflexive jab at those woke folks with zero content about the truck in question. That's very much on brand for HN.

I certainly didn’t expect it to be, or I would’ve added something about the truck lol

I’m interested to see what exactly is included in the base model and when that will become available since they’ve only given us information on higher trims so far. $40K for this vehicle is very affordable, that’s about as cheap as you can get a new Model 3 right now but at least for awhile it could be eligible for electric vehicle credits. If the government extended these credits they could get A LOT of people to buy these trucks.

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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Post by ianai »

jrsj wrote: post #233

There’s a lot of stereotyping of truck owners going on in this thread which is kind of funny given how pro-EV HN normally is. It’s like the aesthetics of a pickup truck is offensive to some people. Kind of bizarre and not something I’m used to seeing but I guess I live in Ohio so that probably has something to do with it. A lot of people just want to move stuff, they don’t want to like…burn your house down while wear…

I live in rural America. I have a bit of generalized fear toward truck drivers exactly because they tend to be the most aggressive and dangerous on the road. They also belch diesel pollution and that can get into my cabin. So I own a big vehicle to be somewhat closer in footing, which is itself ridiculous.

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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Post by tmh88j »

Dah00n wrote: post #361
FridayoLeary wrote: post #205

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every single car today is bloated.

Like the Toyota Yaris and Fiat 500?

Yes, compared to cars even a decade ago modern cars are very bloated. Have you seen an original 500 from the 50's/60's or 70's? They weighed around 1100 lbs. A modern base trim Fiat 500 weighs around 2400 lbs.

We all realize it's due to safety, but a lot of sports cars have gotten progressively less fun as a result. The M3 is no longer a small nimble sedan. It's larger than the 5 series was from only 2 generations ago. That's all he's pointing out.

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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Post by gautamcgoel »

duffyjp wrote: post #358
leesec wrote: post #230

I'm really happy Ford and others are starting to actually deliver on EV's. I do however think there will be a long list of issues as they scale the roll out, given the newness and complexity of this product. Here are some concerns I think people should be aware of: 1. No comprehensive supercharger network. This is a real big deal still. Using existing non-supercharging networks is not feasible for any long distance.…

We owned a Ford plug-in hybrid. Amazing power, every creature comfort imaginable, great price-- what could go wrong? Sort answer: everything. It was an absolute nightmare. First and last Ford I'll ever buy.

Can you elaborate? What went wrong?

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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Post by eldaisfish »

ben7799 wrote: post #349
jrsj wrote: post #233

There’s a lot of stereotyping of truck owners going on in this thread which is kind of funny given how pro-EV HN normally is. It’s like the aesthetics of a pickup truck is offensive to some people. Kind of bizarre and not something I’m used to seeing but I guess I live in Ohio so that probably has something to do with it. A lot of people just want to move stuff, they don’t want to like…burn your house down while wear…

Right the stereotyping here is ridiculous and full of out of control virtue signaling. If you live in an apartment complex it's ridiculous to have a truck. But Even if you own just a reasonable suburban house with a small amount of land you need to do a lot of dirty truck type jobs every year. I only have half an acre of land, but due to tons of trees I have yard work every year that causes me to have to do many many…

this is a weak argument on several levels. if you need to move things five times a year, rent a pickup truck. Unless you're moving things on the regular, there's no point owning a very inefficient and heavy vehicle.

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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Post by Miner49er »

jrsj wrote: post #233

There’s a lot of stereotyping of truck owners going on in this thread which is kind of funny given how pro-EV HN normally is. It’s like the aesthetics of a pickup truck is offensive to some people. Kind of bizarre and not something I’m used to seeing but I guess I live in Ohio so that probably has something to do with it. A lot of people just want to move stuff, they don’t want to like…burn your house down while wear…

I grew up in a place where I can't even think of a family that didn't have at least one truck. I'm honestly confused by the dislike of them. I really don't understand how you can own a house with a decent sized yard and not own a truck or at least a trailer. How do you get any yard or house work done without one?
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